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Re:Apple Says It Has Never Worked With NSA To Create iPhone ... by moron4hire on Tuesday December 31, 2013 @03:36PM (#6992697)
I'm not suggesting that they have or have not received a NSL. I am saying, if they are in compliance with the gag order portion of the NSL, then they must always deny that they ever received a NSL for any reason. The government views not denying receipt of a NSL as confirming receipt. If they hadn't received a NSL, of course they would say they hadn't received one. If they had received a NSL, or course they would say they hadn't received one. The only reply to the question of "have you received a NSL" that is ever legal, is to deny receipt.

So whatever their true status is, it cannot be judged from their own statements, as long as we assume that nobody at Apple gives two shits enough to stick their neck out and risk incarceration for violating a NSL.

Re:Apple Says It Has Never Worked With NSA To Create iPhone ... by sigzero on Tuesday December 31, 2013 @04:56PM (#6993043)
Or we could believe their statement about fighting the order. So much speculation and no facts.