News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:We’re About to Lose Net Neutrality by bowlofpetunias on Sunday December 29, 2013 @06:56PM (#6982196)
Consumers don't decide shit. Consumers are people that buy stuff, nothing more. The people that decide are called citizens or "voters".

(Also, Google is probably one of the worst examples imaginable for arguing the market should make such decisions.)

Re:We’re About to Lose Net Neutrality by burntsushi on Sunday December 29, 2013 @07:58PM (#6982444)
Who decided that the automobile would replace the horse and buggy for most modes of personal transportation?

Consumers.

Re:We’re About to Lose Net Neutrality by grannyg00se on Sunday December 29, 2013 @09:59PM (#6982781)
Early horseless carriages didn't sell well, if at all. Consumers weren't making the decision to replace the horse and carriage. Continuous innovation and industry and government did that.

Not until the choice is taken away do consumers (appear to) make a change.

We could all be driving electric cars right now if consumers were making real choices. But we won't see a great number of electrics selling until they become so good that the gasoline car is practically taken off of the table as a viable choice. You can then credit the change to the consumers, but it's really much greater forces at work behind the scenes making it happen.

Re:We’re About to Lose Net Neutrality by burntsushi on Sunday December 29, 2013 @10:07PM (#6982801)
If consumers wanted to continue using the horse-and-buggy, they would have continued to buy it. But they didn't. The desired the automobile.

I'm not sure how the notion that "consumers don't decide anything" can really hold water. Consumers are literally the people who allocate their resources to particular goods.

In some cases, external forces remove or enforce particular choices. But I don't know how this implies that consumers can't decide anything.

Re:We’re About to Lose Net Neutrality by Nick_C on Monday December 30, 2013 @11:01PM (#6988876)
> Early horseless carriages didn't sell well

Exactly. Henry Ford paid his workers very well, not out of altruism because he was the one of the most unaltruistic people you can think of, but because he wanted them to be able to afford his car. They would become mobile advertisements of his new technology.

In that, they were much like the Google Glassers are today.

Re:We’re About to Lose Net Neutrality by betterunix on Sunday December 29, 2013 @11:17PM (#6983015)
Who decided that automobiles should have seat belts, collapsable steering columns, and the numerous other safety features that save lives today? Hint: not consumers.
Re:We’re About to Lose Net Neutrality by burntsushi on Monday December 30, 2013 @06:10PM (#6987727)
Was there something I said that implies that consumers decided everything? No? Okay then.