New Twist in International Relations: Corporate Keep-My-Data-Out-of-U.S. Clause

Re:New Twist in International Relations: Corporate Keep-My-D... by throwaway_yy2Di on Friday December 27, 2013 @03:21AM (#6969902)

"Worst possible knee-jerk reaction. Data outside the US is the easiest for the NSA to access. It's only data that never leaves the US which in theory you can argue is subject to warrants."

Nonsense. If they're even talking about keeping data out of the US, they are probably non-US citizens. Under NSA law (the parts that have been publicly leaked), NSA feels perfectly free to seize their data when it is stored in the US, or makes transit into or through the US. A non-American sending their data into the US does not thereby protect it from US spies. (Really, that's common sense). The only data that is maybe safe is that of clearly-identified US citizens communicating with themselves in the US. These can still still be intercepted and stored, but the leaked secret laws say that the NSA does not allow its analysts to read it.

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Re:New Twist in International Relations: Corporate Keep-My-D... by zaroth on Friday December 27, 2013 @03:38AM (#6969932)

I'm a bit confused, you say nonsense, but then you apparently agree with two key assumptions.

I'm definitely not saying it's a good situation we find ourselves in here, or that data is 'safe' anywhere. But I would want anyone to think very long and hard before moving servers outside the US and claiming that provides some sort of benefit, other than as a political statement... It actually sounds like you agree with that.

Maybe r/Worst possible/A dangerous/ would be better. But I do appreciate reading the opposing opinions.

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