New Twist in International Relations: Corporate Keep-My-Data-Out-of-U.S. Clause

Re:New Twist in International Relations: Corporate Keep-My-D... by rgj on Friday December 27, 2013 @02:12AM (#6969736)

The customers of the Dutch cloud-services conpany I work for haven been demanding this for at least ten years. Snowden didn't change much there, it's been going on since the Patriot act. European Union privacy legislation demands that sensitive data is stored within the EU. Storing data in other countries is only permitted if a satisfactory level of protection can be offered. This was used in marketing by EU companies in order to promote their own services, effectively creating FUD around US-based services.

When the Amsterdam Internet Exchange (AMS-IX) recently opened up an office in NYC there was a big fuss about it, because it would make the entire Dutch internet traffic subject to the Patriot act, since it applies to any company with an office on American soil.

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Re:New Twist in International Relations: Corporate Keep-My-D... by thisone on Friday December 27, 2013 @04:24AM (#6970032)

I've been dealing with this for what seems like ages now. At my last job I actually had to go a get a new service shut down because the people who provisioned it didn't realise or understand that it was a problem that all the PID was being stored in the US.

I've read the Safe Harbor rules and audit information and I don't trust it one bit. I really can't blame corporations, especially EU ones, from stating very plainly that they don't want their data stored in the US.

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Re:New Twist in International Relations: Corporate Keep-My-D... by Nursie on Friday December 27, 2013 @04:42AM (#6970064)

>> effectively creating FUD around US-based services.

FUD?

No, it's been explicit in law for some time that people's data was protected in Europe in ways it wasn't in the US.

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Re:New Twist in International Relations: Corporate Keep-My-D... by draugadrotten on Friday December 27, 2013 @04:38AM (#6970058)

> European Union privacy legislation demands that sensitive data is stored within the EU

While this may be officially promoted as a way of protecting against EU citizens against NSA (US access) to the data, it is also a way for the EU to ensure that EU can get to the data when the EU wants access.

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Re:New Twist in International Relations: Corporate Keep-My-D... by bjelkeman-again on Friday December 27, 2013 @02:21AM (#6969757)

So what did AMS-IX say?

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Re:New Twist in International Relations: Corporate Keep-My-D... by rgj on Friday December 27, 2013 @02:27AM (#6969770)

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=nl&tl=en&u=http%3A/...

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