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Re:Open Letter to Google About Rap Genius SEO by davemel37 on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @02:14PM (#6960689)
I didn't say buying links doesn't work. I said asking for a series of exact match anchor text links, on the bottom of a blog post on a site that is likely irrelevant, is very unlikely to work.

More importantly, any strategy that is against Googles quality guidelines that works today, probably wont work forever, or even for another several months. The pain and suffering of getting slapped by google is much too intense to justify the short term gains.

Matt Cutts himself said recently that the best way to discourage spammers is not just to hurt their bottom line, but to "Break Their Spirits." http://searchengineland.com/googles-matt-cutts-on-search-spa...

Re:Open Letter to Google About Rap Genius SEO by ripberge on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @02:27PM (#6960741)
You're giving Google's algorithms way too much credit. The exact strategy you described still does work--and that's really the sad part.

That's why Google has to have these scare tactics to stop people from doing them. If they didn't work then Google and you and everyone else who's up in arms over this would just ignore these links.

I can guarantee you that if you do a backlink analysis of everyone ranking ahead of rapgenius for these search terms they will have thousands of these types of backlinks.

Re:Open Letter to Google About Rap Genius SEO by davemel37 on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @02:45PM (#6960819)
My experience differs. Odds are, even with all those spammy links, there are thousands of legit links. Many of those links are probably discounted by Google.

I definitely agree that Google wouldn't be so vocal about buying links, if it wasn't a real threat to the quality of their SERPs.

That being said, this particular strategy from Rap Genius most certainly does not work. There are just too many obvious signals that those links are unnatural.

Why not go for the single link, in content, without exact match anchor text, with content near the link with the text you want to rank for...

http://wiep.net/link-value-factors/

If you're gonna ask bloggers for links, start with legit outreach strategies, why open with an obvious barter. I bet broken linkbuilding http://www.brokenlinkbuilding.com/ is a treasure trove of opportunity in the lyrics vertical. or simple Start with just sharing great content that is relevant, and nurture relationships with bloggers. Why buy them off, when you have such a great web property?

For a list of more strategies... http://pointblankseo.com/link-building-strategies

why not try this strategy while your at it... It would work perfectly for Rap Genius. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5688175

Re:Open Letter to Google About Rap Genius SEO by girvo on Wednesday December 25, 2013 @01:55AM (#6962436)
While you're right, doesn't it scare anyone else that your entire business can be at the whim of Googles algorithms and decisions? :(