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Re:Java SE 8 Proposed Final Draft Specification — Draft 1 by laureny on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @11:57AM (#6960105)
> Anyway, they recently started from scratch again on modularization, so pretty much all the work done on Jigsaw before that is lost anyway

Nonsense. Just because you throw out a design doesn't mean that "everything is lost": you've learned a lot in the process and you're going to use that knowledge to draft the next design.

Java is often made fun of for moving at a glacial pace but quite a few languages could learn a thing or two about the benefits of shipping features that are designed right from v1 (Scala has been much more reckless in that area).

Re:Java SE 8 Proposed Final Draft Specification — Draft 1 by frowaway001 on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @12:14PM (#6960165)
> Nonsense. [blabla]

... which is exactly what I said in the next sentence, right? :-)

> but quite a few languages could learn a thing or two about the benefits of shipping features that are designed right from v1

Eh, could you mention a few things which were "designed right from v1"? I can only imagine enums, but what else?