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Re:Telegram protocol defeated. Authors are going to modify c... by Trufa on Saturday December 21, 2013 @09:43PM (#6949111)
As a side note, I didn't notice it was google translate until half way through the article. It's getting really good.

Is Russian an "easy" language to translate to English?

Re:Telegram protocol defeated. Authors are going to modify c... by bane on Saturday December 21, 2013 @10:29PM (#6949198)
My understanding is that it isn't but recent-ish statistical approaches have had lots of success. I know that almost overnight Arabic went from an unreadable mess to about as good as a basic non-native speaker.

I wish it'd find its way into usage for East Asian languages more, but I suppose finding dual-equivalent corpuses to build the models off of is hard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistical_machine_translatio...

Re:Telegram protocol defeated. Authors are going to modify c... by Trufa on Saturday December 21, 2013 @10:58PM (#6949277)
Interesting, thanks!
Re:Telegram protocol defeated. Authors are going to modify c... by mynameishere on Saturday December 21, 2013 @09:56PM (#6949141)
I had to struggle to read it. I mean:

After logout, one of the key interlocutors for chat will regenerate, and to check that I have the same key as the source, I can only look in his eyes phone.

...did it translate "iPhone" to "eyes phone"? I'm not sure. If that isn't what happened, then something far more horrible must have.

Re:Telegram protocol defeated. Authors are going to modify c... by 11001 on Saturday December 21, 2013 @11:46PM (#6949399)
The original:

После логаута одного из собеседников ключ для чата будет перегенерирован, а проверить то, что я имею тот же ключ что и собеседник я могу только посмотрев в его телефон глазами.

My (human) translation:

After one of the participants will log out, the key from the chat will be re-generated, but in order to check that I have the same key as them, I would need to see their phone with my own eyes.

This sentence has a particularly non-English word order, plus some missed punctuation. I can see how it would be a hard case for machine translation.

Re:Telegram protocol defeated. Authors are going to modify c... by Trufa on Saturday December 21, 2013 @10:13PM (#6949172)
The thing is, I though it was poorly written English, written by a non native speaker, rather than a computer.

I must also clarify that I was a little distracted.

Re:Telegram protocol defeated. Authors are going to modify c... by lukeqsee on Saturday December 21, 2013 @09:46PM (#6949123)
I noticed it instantly (the title). I also noticed many irregularities throughout the article. I don't know if you're a native speaker, but to me it was obviously computer translated.
Re:Telegram protocol defeated. Authors are going to modify c... by moron4hire on Sunday December 22, 2013 @03:53AM (#6949796)
English to Russian is a bit easier than Russian to English. Word order doesn't mean as much in Russian as in English, so the translation is lossy.
Re:Telegram protocol defeated. Authors are going to modify c... by symbix on Sunday December 22, 2013 @05:17AM (#6949927)
Does this seem good to you? Damn, I feel I should stop worrying about my English.