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Re:Jolla phones now available for sale in Europe by contextual on Thursday December 19, 2013 @11:26AM (#6935600)
The Jolla UI looks and behaves similar to the Blackberry 10 OS, which is a good thing, and an improvement on Android and iOS.

I have a Blackberry Z30[1] and I don't think I could go back to the "old way" of using a smartphone. BB 10 feels like a true smartphone experience, as subjective as that is.

[1] http://ca.blackberry.com/smartphones/blackberry-z30.html

Re:Jolla phones now available for sale in Europe by Pxtl on Thursday December 19, 2013 @02:39PM (#6937246)
Which means it could face the one of the same challenges as BB10 - these global gestures are very demo-unit-unfriendly. You go to a store and pick up a BB10 device and you're freaking lost with no visible buttons or UI to use.

A non-discoverable interface on a device this late to the party is not going to be good for market-share.

Re:Jolla phones now available for sale in Europe by contextual on Thursday December 19, 2013 @03:22PM (#6937583)
Fascinating insight. Reminds me of the Pepsi Challenge. In the famous Pepsi vs Coke taste tests[1], people picked Pepsi due to it's favorable first impression - it had a sweeter taste. In reality, most people prefer a less sweet beverage over the course of an entire can.

Maybe BlackBerry should attack the problem the same way Coke did, by conducting a (longer-term) OS interface challenge.

[1]http://www.slate.com/articles/business/rivalries/2013/08/pep...

Re:Jolla phones now available for sale in Europe by Pxtl on Thursday December 19, 2013 @03:25PM (#6937603)
Just making sure that cellphone vendors use devices properly imaged with a demo-oriented environment that returns to tutorial mode every time it idles would be a big help.
Re:Jolla phones now available for sale in Europe by pavlov on Thursday December 19, 2013 @04:13PM (#6937924)
I remember that was my first experience with the Nokia N9 (spiritual and technical predecessor of the Jolla phone).

At the store, I picked it up, turned it around a few times to confirm that there are indeed no buttons, then tried tapping the screen all over but it stubbornly displayed only a screensaver.

Later someone told me that I was supposed to rapidly tap twice in one place (like a double-click on the mouse) to get to the home screen. Nothing in the unit's physical design or software suggested this.

Re:Jolla phones now available for sale in Europe by shmerl on Thursday December 19, 2013 @08:11PM (#6939249)
The point is, once you figure out what to do, you really appreciate the comfort of such interface.
Re:Jolla phones now available for sale in Europe by shmerl on Thursday December 19, 2013 @08:00PM (#6939202)
It is pretty discoverable through a tutorial which is offered for all new users. If you skip it - things can be initially harder.
Re:Jolla phones now available for sale in Europe by Pxtl on Thursday December 19, 2013 @08:32PM (#6939329)
I've checked out the two BB10 Blackberry devices at various cellphone kiosks - the first two times I got lost not knowing the gestures, the 3rd time I knew from reading online. After three kiosks, I still have never seen the tutorial. Obviously I would see it if I bought one, but first I need to decide to buy one.

That can't be good for BB.

Re:Jolla phones now available for sale in Europe by shmerl on Thursday December 19, 2013 @09:10PM (#6939473)
I meant it's discoverable in Jolla. They offer a tutorial. There should be a way to view it again probably, in case you aren't using a completely new installation.
Re:Jolla phones now available for sale in Europe by Pxtl on Thursday December 19, 2013 @09:28PM (#6939530)
BB10 has a similar tutorial. As I said, it's never turned on in store demo units.