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Re:We Need to Talk About TED by gilgoomesh on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @07:04AM (#6920651)
You should clarify that this is a TEDx conference (the 'x' is the important part). It's not really "TED" in the truest sense and is just a TED-like conference hosted by a third-party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TED_(conference)#TEDx

Re:We Need to Talk About TED by davidgerard on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @08:25AM (#6920961)
Nobody cares. If TED want to rent out the brand name, they get to keep both pieces of the resulting reputation.
Re:We Need to Talk About TED by Goladus on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @10:12AM (#6921482)
Additionally, I haven't noticed a substantial difference in the marketing or publishing of TEDx videos on the web. While obviously anything can go viral, one can usually only distinguish between TEDx talks and TED talks by reading the fine print.
Re:We Need to Talk About TED by MAGZine on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @06:41PM (#6924805)
Or by the big red 'x' on the TED logo.
Re:We Need to Talk About TED by Goladus on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @07:10PM (#6924934)
One that sometimes shows up on the main TED site anyway. Regardless, people don't know what it means.

I've lost count of how many times someone has complained about an overly political, low quality talk and seen someone else come along and try to explain that it wasn't a real TED talk because it was a TEDx talk. Except on Hacker News, that person is usually just ignored. TEDx is substantially diluting the TED brand. Growth of TEDx has been far too fast and reckless.

Re:We Need to Talk About TED by vdaniuk on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @10:44AM (#6921693)
I do care about difference between TED and TEDx. So you are by definition of word 'nobody' is wrong.
Re:We Need to Talk About TED by davidgerard on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @10:50AM (#6921727)
Re:We Need to Talk About TED by vdaniuk on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @12:30PM (#6922346)
Technically correct is a way to go on website dedicated to technology, don't you think?
Re:We Need to Talk About TED by davidgerard on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @12:35PM (#6922383)
Not when we're talking about influence on the brand, which is what licensing a brand is about.
Re:We Need to Talk About TED by pbreit on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @08:45PM (#6925371)
Not on trivial points. It's just annoying and content free.
Re:We Need to Talk About TED by vdaniuk on Wednesday December 18, 2013 @05:53AM (#6926915)
So gross exagerrations is OK but technical nitpicking is not,right?
Re:We Need to Talk About TED by Goladus on Wednesday December 18, 2013 @11:33AM (#6928494)
It wasn't a gross exaggeration. "Nobody cares" is a common English idiom meant to be understood as a casual generalization. The phrase is intended to be semantically analogous to more precise but tedious phrases such as: "a substantial and relevant, probably majority population do not care about the distinction you are making."
Re:We Need to Talk About TED by vdaniuk on Wednesday December 18, 2013 @11:51AM (#6928650)
Yes, it is, in a casual conversation. Not on HN. By the way your verbose definition of "nobody cares" would still be a gross exaggeration as OP didn't provide any proof that a substantial, probably majority of population do not differentiate between TED and TEDx.
Re:We Need to Talk About TED by Goladus on Wednesday December 18, 2013 @01:53PM (#6929656)
Do you believe that most people who watch TED talks understand and care about the distinction between TED and TEDx?
Re:We Need to Talk About TED by vdaniuk on Wednesday December 18, 2013 @02:37PM (#6930029)
Yes, I think that most people who watched both TED and TEDx talks understand the difference. My reasons are as follows.

1. People who watch TED and TEDx are quite intelligent.

2. There are no TEDx videos on ted.com, only on subdomain http://tedxtalks.ted.com.

3. Every TEDx video has this disclaimer: This video was filmed at an independently organized TEDx event and uploaded by the organizer. To flag a video (good or bad!), use this form.

So yeah, this was a gross exaggeration.

Re:We Need to Talk About TED by Goladus on Wednesday December 18, 2013 @11:57PM (#6932978)
> 1. People who watch TED and TEDx are quite intelligent.

That's what they like to think, yes.

If you're talking about acolytes who watch large numbers of TED talks then yes, most of them very likely know the difference. Many have probably even attended TEDx events. But TED talks have spread to far more casual audiences-- people who share merely share the links on twitter and facebook and have probably watched less than 10 talks in their life.

> 2. There are no TEDx videos on ted.com, only on subdomain http://tedxtalks.ted.com.

When I visit that link, I see the large TED logo in the upper left corner (with no 'x' by it). While it doesn't have the flashy video cloud thing that the main page does, the theme is identical. Additionally, I do not need to visit the site to watch the talk, TEDx talks are mostly on YouTube. This talk does not even have the splash page: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDpuJXgD7Rs

Sure it says "TEDx" but how is a casual viewer supposed to know what that means? How much effort am I really going to devote to the implications of the phrase "independently organized TED event" if I'm inclined to care at all?

> 3. Every TEDx video has this disclaimer: This video was filmed at an independently organized TEDx event and uploaded by the organizer. To flag a video (good or bad!), use this form.

I'll admit, I did not notice that disclaimer without you pointing it out. I'm not sure why, the font is large enough. Maybe it's the light gray text.

> So yeah, this was a gross exaggeration.

Nobody cares.

Re:We Need to Talk About TED by vdaniuk on Friday December 20, 2013 @06:19AM (#6940911)
I am always amazed at what length people are ready to go to criticize something, obviously this discussion is going nowhere.
Re:We Need to Talk About TED by nailer on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @07:21AM (#6920699)
The quality of TEDx however should make TED think twice about licensing their brand:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbtl0Q81igc

Re:We Need to Talk About TED by Fat_Rat on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @08:13AM (#6920901)
Let's not forget about vortex math!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oRnhrOf0r0‎
Re:We Need to Talk About TED by nailer on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @08:18AM (#6920925)
Oh dear. The gold starts around 2 minutes in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oRnhrOf0r0#t=121

Re:We Need to Talk About TED by robertjwebb on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @08:29AM (#6920977)
They should get Gene Ray, creator of Time Cube on TEDx next!
Re:We Need to Talk About TED by panacea on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @07:13AM (#6920674)
I think his arguments apply to the mothership, just the same.
Re:We Need to Talk About TED by wavefunction on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @11:11AM (#6921854)
I view the TED and TEDx talks as the same: "science-lite for people who want to be thought of as intellectuals."
Re:We Need to Talk About TED by simonrobb on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @08:41PM (#6925348)
Or, you know, people who aren't trained in science but are interested in it when it's presented in a language they can understand.

Also, hard science isn't all that comes out of TED (see the "E" and "D" in "TED")