I think that the problem is that ecigs still produce vapor, and the anti-smoking industry has spend nearly a generation convincing people that second-hand smoke is the devil. Having long ago quit smoking indoors to keep from subjecting others to second-hand smoke, I understand the stigma, but there are those who will simply refuse to be convinced that vapor is not the same as second-hand smoke, which is why so many places are rushing to ban indoor ecigs, regardless of how non-sensical those policies might be.

This is @Borogravia, who seems to have been hellbanned.

1) You've been hellbanned.

2) I wasn't referring to the grass-roots effort, but specifically, the anti-smoking lobby, specifically Michael Bloomberg, who has spent $600 million of his own money in anti-smoking campaigns, and who seems immune to facts.

He has done a world of good, and I'm glad that the world smokes less, and I applaud his anti-smoking efforts...

so hopefully that will diffuse the ad hominem that he is also an ignorant boor who seems utterly and completely immune to facts.

It's hard to take you seriously when you refer to a single individual giving away a huge chunk of wealth with no hope of earning a return as being an "industry".

I actually pared that down from what I originally wrote, to the detriment of clarity. Please accept my upvote along with my apologies.

Regardless, the man's $600 billion went to found a number of charities for the purpose of putting out anti-smoking ads in states across the nation. He is also rumored to have been a major contributor to "thetruth" (apparently, it's a big secret) who, despite the good that they do, were also filthy with misinformation.

You're not entirely wrong that one man doesn't make an industry, but if one man started 20 companies that all shared the same purpose, would that not constitute an industry? Maybe it wouldn't. Maybe I'm using industry wrong. Either way, I agree that I misspoke, so hopefully this at least clarifies my position somewhat.

Giving $600MM away with no hope of earning a return is not an industry. Full stop.