It's not like 'performing better' is binary. I'm sure that you would perform even better if you took nootropics.

Not necessarily. Good chunk of the "enhancers" might not bode well with strenuous exercise. I don't know of anyone who's mentioned an amplification in their abilities by mixing both diet+exercise with neuro enhancers.

Well that settles it. Killah911 doesn't know anyone who would do both, ergo there isn't anyone.

If you do, please share. It's not the kind of discussion that comes about as a normal part of my conversation with most people. Hoping to hear some interesting viewpoints on HN, especially if they happen to be from people who were able to amplify or have an additive effect by doing both.

I've experienced negative ones so far with Beta Blockers and stimulants + exercise. Haven't been bold enough to try other combos, I'm good with excercise for now

I don't. But that still does not really give any indication about the effects of the combination.

Anecdote: I know someone that was using Ritalin in conjunction with heavy workouts. They loved it and reported far better performance. But I convinced them they really needed to consider the possible health issues of straining your body while on stimulants.

A friend of mine had a heart attack from lifting weights while abusing methamphetamine (intravenous, and a lot of it).

The effects of exercise is HUGE! Right foods, in the longer term do have significant effect, but there's nothing quite like getting your heartrate up for a while to work wonders for your brain

Why not do all that and also take smart drugs?

That's like people that say "I don't need alcohol/drugs/sex/whatever to have a good time. Why can't we listen to music and play Parcheesi?"

Why not both?

Everybody, lets LOL on that.