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Re:HTML 5 drops open source video codec by tptacek on Tuesday July 07, 2009 @12:24AM (#690913)
I like the idea that anyone who has any hardware capability, or even significant hardware capability, can just whip up an Ogg chipset and roll it out to millions of installed devices. Hey, why doesn't Centrino 2 support Ogg? Intel must be clinging to some krazy dreams.
Re:HTML 5 drops open source video codec by ZeroGravitas on Tuesday July 07, 2009 @06:50AM (#691260)
It's somewhat amusing that it's Apple holding out hardware implementations as the key when for years they've included chipsets in their desktops and laptops with decoding ability that they've simply not used.

This has now changed with Snow Leopard, but even then it's only one video card:

""While Apple has previously included graphics cards that have contained hardware support for H.264 decoding, the company has only recently taken advantage of this hardware acceleration. Mac OS X Snow Leopard's specs officially acknowledge this support but it appears to be limted to the NVIDIA 9400M graphics processors found in recent Apple laptops and desktops," Kim reports.

"Unfortunately, it does not appear that this support will extend to older video cards," Kim reports. "Hardware decoding of H.264 video improves the performance of video playback while leaving your computer's CPU free for other tasks."

http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/21409/

Re:HTML 5 drops open source video codec by seldo on Tuesday July 07, 2009 @02:26AM (#691032)
The mass adoption of all elements of HTML 5 is 5 years off; far longer than Apple's hardware product cycle. If Apple wanted to start supporting Ogg, they could build it into their hardware in that timeframe.

Also, it's not like their hardware can't support it right now; Ogg video in Firefox 3.5 runs just fine on my Mac.

Re:HTML 5 drops open source video codec by ubernostrum on Tuesday July 07, 2009 @05:00AM (#691168)
Please write on the blackboard 100 times: "HTML5 has to be something that works well on mobile devices, not just on desktop/laptop machines."

And right now that's going a long way toward killing Theora; mobile devices need a power-efficient hardware decoder to do video, and if they don't get one for Theora they're not going to run everybody's battery life into the ground by using software decoding.

Re:HTML 5 drops open source video codec by vetinari on Tuesday July 07, 2009 @05:53AM (#691216)
Well, HTML5 is not going to be adopted by tomorrow. The adoption will take longer than the mobile devices lifespan.

It means, that if TI/Qualcomm/etc start developing Theora DSPs this year, they will be on the market and in the devices before HTML5 goes mainstream.

Standardizing on Theora is pretty good incentive to have it hardware accelerated.

Re:HTML 5 drops open source video codec by henrrrik on Tuesday July 07, 2009 @06:23AM (#691238)
Well, Safari supports it today including on the iPhone as of verison 3.0. If YouTube rolls out HTML5 support in the next six months, that covers what, a third of all the video on the web (on YouTube itself and embedded on blogs)?
Re:HTML 5 drops open source video codec by vetinari on Tuesday July 07, 2009 @06:59AM (#691264)
Safari supports HTML5 video element, but not HTML5 per se. It is not finished yet.

Interestingly, when YouTube supported only Sorenson, Apple didn't care for that and went on ignoring YouTube. Why it is suddenly a problem?