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Re:Qian Xuesen dies at 98; Co-Founder of JPL and China's spa... by yeukhon on Saturday December 14, 2013 @06:18PM (#6907546)
Oh yes, as a Chinese let me remind you that from news we have learned that there isn't just Chinese American accused to betray the US government, but other ethnic groups too. So, maybe all of us are guilty then.

What kind of stupid idiot you are, by your stupid accusation.

Because of your stupid reasoning, let me construct some ideas:

By your reasoning, we should stop hiring Chinese and Russians because they are known to be hacker-active states. I should be thankful that I received a security internship back in summer and my employer should be glad I had a great chance of being a Chinese spy, injecting backdoor, because I care about my origin and I read Chinese newspaper in addition to New York Time because I happen to like NYT.

And so when certain ethnic groups celebrating their ethnic holiday (Mexican, African Americans), we should be careful because they have a spiritual attachment to their origin (or their parents' origin) that they are also likely to be spy or going to be working for their mother country.

Sure we can't assume they won't. I mean I see American born kids turn into terrorists and there are people who just decide they have enough of US government and run to another country (right, you know, those run to North Korean).

We should also note that UK immigrants might have a tendency to take back US as UK's colonies, and Canadian should be careful of US immigrants because there is some people who believe US should own Canada too.

Right?

Re:Qian Xuesen dies at 98; Co-Founder of JPL and China's spa... by gwern on Saturday December 14, 2013 @09:30PM (#6908087)
> Oh yes, as a Chinese let me remind you that from news we have learned that there isn't just Chinese American accused to betray the US government, but other ethnic groups too. So, maybe all of us are guilty then.

No. Different groups have different risks. That is the point. Someone ethnically Chinese born and raised in China has a different risk of being a spy for China than a white Mormon who has never set foot outside North America.

> What kind of stupid idiot you are, by your stupid accusation. Because of your stupid reasoning, let me construct some ideas:...Right?

No. Please read what I have read, and not what you think I have read. Your absolutist reasoning, without any probabilities but with tons of exaggeration, is not applicable to what I have said.

Re:Qian Xuesen dies at 98; Co-Founder of JPL and China's spa... by gyc on Saturday December 14, 2013 @06:58PM (#6907657)
Better not hire any Jewish people either because, you know, Jonathan Pollard. Thus all American Jews are suspect.
Re:Qian Xuesen dies at 98; Co-Founder of JPL and China's spa... by argonaut on Sunday December 15, 2013 @05:20AM (#6908944)
Look, I disagree with gwern here, but after reading your third sentence I immediately downvoted you. Don't call people stupid idiots.