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Re:Techies Are the New Puritans by DerpDerpDerp on Thursday December 12, 2013 @02:12PM (#6896368)
There's the problem of lock-out: how do you contribute usefully to society without some baseline to work from, and where your day-to-day activities are forced to be about the most basic level of survival?
Re:Techies Are the New Puritans by aaronem on Thursday December 12, 2013 @02:27PM (#6896467)
Well, just off the top of my head, something like a new WPA seems like it'd be a decent start, considering the infrastructure maintenance problems I keep hearing about. Is that "workfare"? I've heard "workfare" is bad, although again I'm not really sure why.
Re:Techies Are the New Puritans by DerpDerpDerp on Thursday December 12, 2013 @03:06PM (#6896797)
I have no objections to WPA-style programs, and think that likely would be a good solution. Heck, it worked once before.

The problem is that in addition to having let our infrastructure decay, we've let our social infrastructure decay.

Re:Techies Are the New Puritans by aaronem on Thursday December 12, 2013 @04:17PM (#6897350)
That's no more an obstacle today than it was in 1935; the original WPA was an emergency measure, just as our notional revival would be.
Re:Techies Are the New Puritans by fredgrott on Thursday December 12, 2013 @02:16PM (#6896396)
It could be argued that the whole increase of drug use in USA is due to lockout and other effects
Re:Techies Are the New Puritans by aaronem on Thursday December 12, 2013 @04:18PM (#6897356)
Oh, it could, could it? Well, then, "lay on, Macduff! -- and damned be he who first cries, 'Hold, enough!'"
Re:Techies Are the New Puritans by basseq on Thursday December 12, 2013 @02:52PM (#6896675)
"...where your day-to-day activities are forced to be about the most basic level of survival?"

Isn't the purpose of so-called "subsidization" to avoid this? (Not that it necessarily works in practice.)

Re:Techies Are the New Puritans by DerpDerpDerp on Thursday December 12, 2013 @03:03PM (#6896774)
There really aren't many homeless programs that subsidize living for a period where you can get back on your feet, in such a way as to not require that you stand in line for hours every day, so you can focus on finding a job, or similar.

Many of them (eg, food stamps) cut benefits when you're unemployed homeless, and focus instead on at-risk employed people.

Many kitchens require that you show up every day and spend large amounts of time on travel to-and-from, as well as waiting in line.