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Re:David Simon: 'There are now two Americas. My country is a... by e40 on Sunday December 08, 2013 @01:38PM (#6870694)
One of the most honest comments in the entire thread. The problem is, both sides don't want to admit this. The conservatives because it makes them out to be assholes (and they'd never win another election again). The liberals because they think they'll lose the argument if they say they want income redistribution--everyone will jump on them and call them (unfairly) socialists or communists (yes, I know they're different), and they whither under such attacks.

Fundamentally, conservatives are people that are angry someone is getting something for nothing, and liberals are people that want to help the least privileged among us.

Until we can all come to terms with this, and logically come to terms with the idea that raising up the poor to a certain standard helps everyone, we're doomed.

Re:David Simon: 'There are now two Americas. My country is a... by sanderjd on Sunday December 08, 2013 @03:59PM (#6871375)
No, in fact his comment and now yours are some of the only ones that dishonest about what the conservative position really is. It's a lot easier to paint people who disagree with you as fiends than it is to understand their point of view, which was the grandparent's entire point, which you and the parent have willfully missed.
Re:David Simon: 'There are now two Americas. My country is a... by e40 on Sunday December 08, 2013 @04:29PM (#6871506)
So, what's your hypothesis? Instead of bitching, why don't you contribute?

Second, you seem to like his (our) position on liberals. Pot meet kettle.

Lastly, I came to this conclusion after many years of talking with conservatives (and watching them in action on TV programs) and reading their own words.