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Re:Epic Fail: The Rise and Fall of Demand Media by wpietri on Saturday December 07, 2013 @07:42PM (#6868434)
If you have something that's of real, meaningful value to users, I think big players are less of a problem. If I'm selling a better mousetrap and suddenly Walmart won't distribute it, there are a lot of other ways to sell mousetraps. If I have valuable content, search is one way I can get people to it, but it's far from the only way.

The mistake Demand Media made was creating a lot of crappy content. They weren't delivering much user value; their real skill was search-driven eyeball arbitrage. When Google tuned their search engine to deliver more value to their users, Demand got squeezed out and had nothing to fall back on.

Re:Epic Fail: The Rise and Fall of Demand Media by larrys on Sunday December 08, 2013 @12:23PM (#6870302)
"and suddenly Walmart won't distribute it, there are a lot of other ways to sell mousetraps"

You are forgetting though (in this Walmart example) that Walmart provides volume. And volume drives down your costs. A big customer may very well be a necessary evil that you can't avoid.

Manufacturers are also known for selling the same (or slightly different or even inferior) product through multiple channels in order to drive down costs. (And example might be Sears private labeling washing machines manufacturered by Westinghouse).

"Demand Media made was creating a lot of crappy content"

Agree with that.

Re:Epic Fail: The Rise and Fall of Demand Media by benologist on Saturday December 07, 2013 @10:29PM (#6868841)
The mistake Demand Media made was not creating their shitty content under a veil of legitimacy - AOL calls their giant content farm "news" and their cheap writers "journalists".
Re:Epic Fail: The Rise and Fall of Demand Media by wpietri on Sunday December 08, 2013 @11:31AM (#6870114)
I don't disagree about AOL, but I think Demand Media's mistake goes deeper. Most purveyors of shitty news know that they have to build an audience. Thus, we have long-lived tripe like the Daily Mail or the National Enquirer. Demand Media's plan was to force one via search engine ranking.
Re:Epic Fail: The Rise and Fall of Demand Media by larrys on Sunday December 08, 2013 @12:26PM (#6870309)
"shitty news" is definitely different than shitty content (of the type that Demand produced).

"shitty news" has entertainment value. People read shitty news because it's entertaining. If it's not accurate that is not the same problem as crappy instructions on how to fix a leaky roof (where the goal is to solve a problem not be entertained.)