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Re:Odds of Alien Life "Very High," House Panel Hears by kordless on Thursday December 05, 2013 @12:40PM (#6855770)
I respect you and are grateful that you risked your life during your service for us. However, making false blaming statements isn't going to help your cause. Datsundere didn't say you killed babies. He said that soldiers kill people, which is a true statement. It's part of being a soldier, but it isn't necessarily the right thing to do moving forward for humanity.

You personally aren't on the hook for this. You signed up for the military, took oaths to defend us (for which I am very grateful) and took orders from decision makers who may or may not have been influenced in their decisions to do the right thing. The rest of us have a right to voice those concerns and ask hard questions about the opportunity cost of warfare. That doesn't mean we're questioning the concept of chain of command.

I hope our sons and daughters end up living in a world where risk is still ever present, but it is used for exploration and the furtherment of humanity, instead of fighting and killing each other over what will later be considered less important matters.

Edit for fellow HNers: Voting down a soldier for expressing some emotion isn't cool. You don't have to apply (misweighted) negative karma to someone who is sharing an important experience of their life to make an impact in the conversation. +1 on the parent - listen to your fellow man, no matter what he is saying.

Re:Odds of Alien Life "Very High," House Panel Hears by clamour on Thursday December 05, 2013 @12:54PM (#6855867)
Sorry to be a jerk but does it annoy anyone how often conversations about the military/soldiers go through the perfunctory "I respect your service blah blah blah..."?

The term "military service" itself irks me to no end. It's not service, it's a government job. No one thanks DMV employees for their "service".

Re:Odds of Alien Life "Very High," House Panel Hears by aestra on Thursday December 05, 2013 @01:22PM (#6856058)
Actually, there is the term "civil service" that denote all other government jobs that are nonmilitary. I always referred to my mother as a civil servant (she held a government job for 35 years before retiring)

My husband is a career sailor, in his 3rd enlistment, Iraq war veteran, and he takes more of a "it's a job" look at it. He still doesn't really know how to respond to strangers' "thank you for your service" even after 14 years.

I think people say it because they respect someone's willingness to risk their life. Especially since we are taught that the military defends our freedom.

Re:Odds of Alien Life "Very High," House Panel Hears by ahoy on Thursday December 05, 2013 @01:03PM (#6855915)
I agree with most of your post, but I disagree with the salute-the-troops attitude. Were the parent from any profession other than the military, no one would take any issue with downvoting his tirade. If you really want to 'support the troops,' stop making idols of them and start treating them like people.
Re:Odds of Alien Life "Very High," House Panel Hears by MrZongle2 on Thursday December 05, 2013 @01:06PM (#6855939)
However, making false blaming statements isn't going to help your cause.

The OP quote was: "Soldiers fight for their own people but untimately [sic] end up killing other HUMANS."

I'm assuming the word was "ultimately", which is incorrect. Not all soldiers ultimately end up killing.

The statement was wrong and offensive. I will not apologize for getting in OP's chili about it.

Re:Odds of Alien Life "Very High," House Panel Hears by kordless on Sunday December 08, 2013 @02:46AM (#6869248)
I agree the OPs quote was less than ideal, but that doesn't mean you can speak for him. There's a difference between you saying what you feel and you saying what others said/feel. The latter should be avoided, if possible.