Re:Another Scala rant on HN
by pkolaczk on Wednesday December 04, 2013 @04:01AM
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Scala is not C++. Scala has much better features to keep complex pieces of code separated from the simple pieces. Also C++ design philosophy was totally different from that of Scala's - C++ values performance over everything else, while Scala's top priorities are correctness and type-safety.
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> Scala is not C++.
That was not the point. The comparison is that Scala is to Java what C++ is to C.
Powerful and flexible but with a lot of baggage that ends up making it impractical.
Nope. C++ is almost a superset of C (there are a few minor differences, but most C programs are correct C++ programs).
Even the most basic Scala program is not a valid Java program. They are just two different languages targetting the same platform.
If making analogies, a much closer analogy would be to say Scala is to Java what D or Rust is to C++.
As of lots of baggage - can you elaborate? Only null comes to my mind and it is never an issue - it was left because Scala is practical. Sure, there are some limitations imposed by the target platform like lack of TCO, lack of efficient suport for tuples/value-types, or RTTI for generics being not powerful enough, but Java-the-language has nothing to do with it. The same limitations apply to Kotlin and Ceylon.