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Re:Are regular folks doomed? by nickthemagicman on Friday November 29, 2013 @10:04AM (#6819610)
Plato believes Democracy is the second lowest form of government.
Re:Are regular folks doomed? by Spooky23 on Friday November 29, 2013 @11:10AM (#6819889)
Plato also was a fan of eugenics and communal child-rearing.

I'm more in line with Churchill -- Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others. I don't accept that a man and particularly his descendants are better humans than me because they own the rights to a mine, or invented <technology X>, or that their great-great-grandfather owned a manor somewhere while mine was farming somewhere else.

Re:Are regular folks doomed? by nickthemagicman on Friday November 29, 2013 @11:20AM (#6819929)
Plato also believed that truth was objective which I'm not so sure about.
Re:Are regular folks doomed? by edem on Friday November 29, 2013 @10:20AM (#6819667)
Which are the highest then. Or there are only 2 of them?
Re:Are regular folks doomed? by nickthemagicman on Friday November 29, 2013 @10:49AM (#6819805)
Democracy in his perception is when the uneducated masses who operate based on their 'instinctual' desires run the show.

He believes Democracy is just a brief transition phase to Tyranny.

The highest is an aristocracy run by philosopher kings who rule by reason and wisdom and dedicate their lives to this and are not allowed to own property.

Re:Are regular folks doomed? by fennecfoxen on Friday November 29, 2013 @11:04AM (#6819867)
Which sounds great on paper and all, but in practice is more likely to be a brief transition phase to Tyrrany.
Re:Are regular folks doomed? by nickthemagicman on Friday November 29, 2013 @11:15AM (#6819916)
I see your point but I think Plato may have been thinking at a higher level than either one of us so there may be more we need to consider.
Re:Are regular folks doomed? by fennecfoxen on Friday November 29, 2013 @12:27PM (#6820208)
By "a higher level" do you mean Plato was right in the same sense that "communism is a perfectly good economic/political system, it's just that real communism has never really been tried"?

Or do you mean that Plato was possessed of a higher intelligence than puny mortals like us could hope to properly contemplate, possibly even incapable of error, and therefore we should defer to his musings without using our critical thinking to apply the benefit of 2,360 years of hindsight?

Re:Are regular folks doomed? by nickthemagicman on Friday November 29, 2013 @02:43PM (#6820729)
Actually I'm just trying to get Karma by sounding smart. I really just copied and pasted everything from Wikipedia. I have no idea what I'm talking about.
Re:Are regular folks doomed? by edem on Tuesday December 03, 2013 @11:59AM (#6841495)
+1
Re:Are regular folks doomed? by nickthemagicman on Friday November 29, 2013 @02:42PM (#6820720)
Re:Are regular folks doomed? by netrus on Friday November 29, 2013 @10:36AM (#6819746)
The one named after an engineer* [1].

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato's_five_regimes

* Just kidding.

Re:Are regular folks doomed? by downer95 on Friday November 29, 2013 @10:42AM (#6819772)
1. Aristocracy

2. Timocracy

3. Oligarchy

4. Democracy

5. Tyranny