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Re:Top-Secret Document Reveals NSA Spied On Porn Habits To D... by jmadsen on Wednesday November 27, 2013 @03:50AM (#6807162)
My first thoughts on reading this:

1) Looks like (perhaps) one step short of where we all said it was going - "collect what we can now, never knowing when & how we might need to use it against someone later"

2) Wouldn't it be easier/cheaper/better/whatever to simply fake the data & frame someone?

Re:Top-Secret Document Reveals NSA Spied On Porn Habits To D... by lotyrin on Wednesday November 27, 2013 @06:24AM (#6807546)
As far as #2, they are still people, no matter how authoritarian/establishmentarian, so they still need to convince themselves (and each-other) that what they're doing is right (even though, seemingly, the bar for achieving that may be lower than for a typical person).
Re:Top-Secret Document Reveals NSA Spied On Porn Habits To D... by a3n on Wednesday November 27, 2013 @10:55AM (#6808737)
At the risk of violating some internet law, the people (they were still people) of Nazi Germany convinced themselves and each other to commit mass evil, or at least to go with the flow and not rise up against it.

The people of Nazi Germany were not special, they were no different than any other group of people.

We are all our own worst danger. When we restrain our government through laws and constitutions, it's not to protect ourselves from some "other," it's to protect ourselves from ourselves.

Re:Top-Secret Document Reveals NSA Spied On Porn Habits To D... by TheCraiggers on Wednesday November 27, 2013 @11:17AM (#6808914)
You could always not bring up Nazi and just use the Milgram experiment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
Re:Top-Secret Document Reveals NSA Spied On Porn Habits To D... by malandrew on Thursday November 28, 2013 @12:06AM (#6813110)
Besides the Milgram experiment, Soloman Asch's conformity experiments, Zombardo's Stanford Prison study, the innocent bystander and the fundamental attribution error should all be required for politicians writing laws, police enforcing them, prosecutors bringing charges against people using them and judges meting out the final judgement. Possibly even jurors should be required to learn about those basic psychological principles before sitting in on a trial. You could cover all of them for the jurors in 2 days I reckon.
Re:Top-Secret Document Reveals NSA Spied On Porn Habits To D... by Crito on Wednesday November 27, 2013 @03:13PM (#6810805)
Or better yet, mention both.

Rendering certain segments of history taboo is a great way to fail to learn from them.