I should add that I've been "Uncle Barry" too. One of my poor sisters and her daughter tried to get me to loan them ten grand to help start a business, and I refused. Why? Because their plan was nonsense. I think they have a good $20-30k/year idea, which is great, but they were absolutely convinced that it's a $100k business - something I consider impossible upon running various numbers and the limitations of hands-on work. If they're not willing to be realistic about their scope, I'm not going to hand them money to pour down a hole.