Re:My deadly disease was just a 23andme bug
by gnaritas on Monday November 25, 2013 @11:05PM
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You're romanticizing the past, we're not on a downward decline, things are improving constantly. Poverty, war, oppression, these things aren't new, and they weren't somehow better in the past unless you were white and the loss of that white privilege somehow feels like things got worse.
Re:My deadly disease was just a 23andme bug
by mikeash on Monday November 25, 2013 @09:47PM
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Have you actually looked up the historical level of death due to war and historical rates of poverty? Both have been going steadily down for a long, long time.
But you seem to be immune to facts....
Re:My deadly disease was just a 23andme bug
by tokenizer on Monday November 25, 2013 @09:54PM
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What rates? The 20th Century was the most brutal period of war in our entire history. More than 40,000,000 people died in world war 2 alone. That's a low estimate... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_and_anthropogenic_...
But you would think it's more important that we have a lower per 1000 rate would you? Personally, every death to me is a shame, and 40,000,000 in WW2 alone, and us having continual war since 2001 creates an outlook of more war in the future. Don't fool yourself into thinking we couldn't beat that record...
Re:My deadly disease was just a 23andme bug
by mikeash on Monday November 25, 2013 @10:08PM
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You reject relative measures and only measure death in absolute terms? You find a world with a trillion people in which a billion are killed in war to be worse than a world with a billion people in which 90% of them are killed in war? Like I said, impervious to facts.
War, Poverty, Oppression, and Moral Decay are more of a problem than ever. Don't mix up my points with social progress, which is an awesome achievement of our society. My moral decay lies more in trust in general and in the institutions we have to trust to function effectively.
War is continuous, with constant tension to this day. Iran and US peace deal for 6 months? Well, looks like Saudia Arabia and Isreal have teamed up to change that? Eastern European Rocket Grid for Rogue States in the area, justification Iran not needed says "Putin"? Fuck you says US/American Narrative of not liking Russians. Chinese and Japanese conflict over islands? Better not attack Japan China, The US has a defensive treaty with them. That would not be a good thing for anyone.
Poverty is continuous. Personally, I find it despicable that some people can live as billionaires with some thousands of children dying needlessly from diarrhea and malnutrition. Sure donating helps, but surely a system that allows such disparity surely something like this isn't shocking... Not to mention the increasing amount of individuals in the US who rely on food assistance (which may be cut by this improving system)...
Oppression need not even be mentioned. Surveillance, Propaganda, the Prison Industrial Complex... You may have heard about the innocent man being forcefully given cavity searches / colonoscopy surgery / etc without probably cause in the US this past month? If not, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWg_JyJJqaU. System is definitely improving. Who needs the 4th amendment...
And lastly, again, moral decay. I'll modify my point to be less nonsensical for you. The fact that this all happens, and people like you say things are improving, given what we see as innovation everyday? That sounds like a decent amount of cognitive dissonance to me! The first step to a non philosophical based moral ground, that can justify/defend a horrifically immoral system, because fuck everyone else, it's comfortable here where I live. To bring up a popular meme, you should check your privilege.