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Re:FDA Warning Letter to 23andMe by jxf on Monday November 25, 2013 @11:21AM (#6794952)
If you look at the FDA's website, it's littered with dozens of communications begging 23andme to submit some documentation about their product so that the FDA can evaluate the medical claims they're making.

See, e.g., this one from June 10, 2010:

[0] http://www.fda.gov/downloads/MedicalDevices/ResourcesforYou/...

All the FDA wants in this letter is some kind of understanding that their genetic tests are actually valid and correct, since they are making medical claims regarding their accuracy:

> 23andMe has never submitted information on the analytical or clinical validity of its tests to FDA for clearance or approval. However, your website states that the 23andMe Personal Genome Service™ is intended to tell patients in advance how they will respond to certain medications including warfarin and clopidogrel. It also states that the data generated from the 23andMe Odds Calculator, a feature ofthe 23andMe Personal Genome Service™, includes the contribution of single-nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs) to disease risk. Consumers may make medical decisions in reliance on this information.

The FDA then establishes its ability to regulate this (remember, it's legally required to do this):

> During a meeting between 23andMe and FDA on July 29, 2009, you described the 23andMe Personal Genome Service™ as consisting of a software program that analyzes genetic test results that are generated by an external laboratory in order to generate a patient specific test report. Thus, the 23andMe Personal Genome Service™ is a diagnostic device and subject to all applicable requirements of the Act.

They then very helpfully point them to all the forms, documents, etc., necessary to satisfy the legal requirements:

> For a device requiring premarket approval, the notification required by section 510(k)of the Act, 21 U.S.C. 360(k), is deemed satisfied when a PMA is pending before the agency. 21 C.F.R. 807.81(b).

There's even a helpful mailing address and fax number:

> Please direct your questions and response to: James L. Woods, Food and Drug Administration, 10903 New Hampshire Avenue, W066-5688, Silver Spring, MD 20993

Honestly, this sounds like 23andme has been getting away with something for a while and the FDA is tired of giving them leeway.

Re:FDA Warning Letter to 23andMe by tptacek on Monday November 25, 2013 @11:57AM (#6795206)
The bio on the guy who sent the letter you linked is interesting; not the "career civil servant maybe with a JD" you'd expect from an enforcement action:

http://oba.od.nih.gov/oba/sacghs/roster/bio/2010/Alberto%20G...

Re:FDA Warning Letter to 23andMe by eli on Monday November 25, 2013 @08:54PM (#6798552)
As an aside, I think this is not as uncommon as one might think. It's a big government and obviously not perfect at hiring and promotion, but in my experience the upper-middle tier of employees generally know their shit.
Re:FDA Warning Letter to 23andMe by cbsmith on Monday November 25, 2013 @06:01PM (#6797719)
I suspect 23andMe didn't provide documentation because they very much want to avoid being treated as a medical service, and fear submitting this documentation would serve to further put them on this path.

There is a bit of a contradiction here that "natural supplements" get this huge pass from the FDA, but applying some math to very, very natural genetic data doesn't.

Re:FDA Warning Letter to 23andMe by saalweachter on Monday November 25, 2013 @11:09PM (#6799047)
Blame Congress. While the executive branch may write regulations, they must operate within the mandate defined by Congress.

The DSHEA of 1994 (authored by Orrin Hatch) explicitly forbids the regulation of dietary supplements by the FDA so long as they do not make health claims. Unless that bill is repealed, the FDA has no authority over supplements.

Re:FDA Warning Letter to 23andMe by cbsmith on Monday November 25, 2013 @11:42PM (#6799175)
Oh I get this comes from congress and the tortured history of dietary supplements. I'm just taking issue with what might define as reasonable.
Re:FDA Warning Letter to 23andMe by nickff on Tuesday November 26, 2013 @02:17AM (#6799673)
I don't see what reasonableness has to do with government.
Re:FDA Warning Letter to 23andMe by EpicEng on Monday November 25, 2013 @08:04PM (#6798354)
Since when do "natural supplements" make medical diagnosis? Not even in the same ballpark.
Re:FDA Warning Letter to 23andMe by esrauch on Monday November 25, 2013 @08:30PM (#6798459)
Natural supplements are effectively marketed as medication (despite a label indicating the FDA has not evaluated the claims). Many people I have spoken to genuinely believe natural supplements to be actual medicine based on the way they are marketed.

The issue with incorrect diagnosis is might lead to incorrect or ineffective treatments. "Natural supplements" are the incorrect or ineffective treatments themselves: the unregulated claims they make is very similar in substance and effect to the quasiregulated claims that 23andme is making.

Re:FDA Warning Letter to 23andMe by cbsmith on Monday November 25, 2013 @10:33PM (#6798945)
And which ballpark would you say is closer to the area of a "food" or "drug"?

If you look at the FDA's mandate, it is pretty strongly oriented to products for treatment, not medical diagnosis. The medical diagnosis angle is mostly there due to certain forms of quackery.

Re:FDA Warning Letter to 23andMe by EpicEng on Tuesday November 26, 2013 @03:39PM (#6804035)
I develop medical devices use for diagnosis for a living. Some organization has to watch over this stuff, it just so happens to fall to the FDA. What's your proposal? Do you believe that these devices should not be regulated?
Re:FDA Warning Letter to 23andMe by cbsmith on Thursday November 28, 2013 @11:00PM (#6817831)
If your device is a pen and paper, I don't agree it has to be regulated.