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Re:NPR Crowdsources ID of lobbyists at congressional health ... by pg on Thursday June 25, 2009 @02:02PM (#674121)
This is a great idea. I bet more stuff like this would have a significant impact-- like the amateur tail-number watchers at airports who helped uncover the secret "rendition" flights.
Re:NPR Crowdsources ID of lobbyists at congressional health ... by sp332 on Thursday June 25, 2009 @03:36PM (#674257)
That sounds pretty cool. Got a link?
Re:NPR Crowdsources ID of lobbyists at congressional health ... by dtf on Thursday June 25, 2009 @04:19PM (#674320)
Re:NPR Crowdsources ID of lobbyists at congressional health ... by yan on Thursday June 25, 2009 @01:28PM (#674068)
I heard about that on NPR this morning, I'm all for it. My only concern, do they have any privacy rights against this? Or does the gov't building imply same protections as being in public?
Re:NPR Crowdsources ID of lobbyists at congressional health ... by evgen on Thursday June 25, 2009 @02:13PM (#674134)
They are at a public meeting, in a government building, exercising their 1st amendment rights to petition their government. They have absolutely no privacy rights here. They are not compelled to identify themselves but they have no protection against others identifying them nor are they likely to receive such protection given the legitimate concerns the public has over corruption (the Lobbying Disclosure Act [2 USC 1605] does permit lobbyists to perform routine information discovery, such as attending this event, without requiring disclosure but the fact that they are not required to report their attendance would probably not be enough for a court to find any expectation of privacy for anyone attending such an event.)
Re:NPR Crowdsources ID of lobbyists at congressional health ... by rrhyne on Thursday June 25, 2009 @09:50PM (#674793)
That's true only until they lobby congress and get a national lobbyist protection act passed.
Re:NPR Crowdsources ID of lobbyists at congressional health ... by tptacek on Thursday June 25, 2009 @01:41PM (#674093)
I think NPR has just captured a moment in time where they can pull something like this off. If the idea of catching lobbyists in the crowds has any impact, lobbyists will just stop attending hearings.
Re:NPR Crowdsources ID of lobbyists at congressional health ... by pg on Thursday June 25, 2009 @02:05PM (#674125)
I wonder. Lobbyists presumably don't go to hearings just to waste their time. So it would probably decrease their power if they couldn't watch hearings live.
Re:NPR Crowdsources ID of lobbyists at congressional health ... by evgen on Thursday June 25, 2009 @02:20PM (#674142)
None of the people identified so far are "players" in the game, just low-level staffers who were sent to take notes and show the flag. The real lobbyists do not go to hearings, they make phone calls and do lunch and social events. To place this in a context that people here might understand, if these photos had been taken at a random internet conference then you would be seeing associates or EIRs of a VC firm and not general partners.
Re:NPR Crowdsources ID of lobbyists at congressional health ... by pj on Thursday June 25, 2009 @02:00PM (#674116)
They should have an image map over the faces and you can click on the face and then it goes to a form where you can add details about the person.
Re:NPR Crowdsources ID of lobbyists at congressional health ... by colins_pride on Thursday June 25, 2009 @03:07PM (#674224)
I love this idea; how does the sponsoring site ensure the quality of the user supplied data?
Re:NPR Crowdsources ID of lobbyists at congressional health ... by pj on Thursday June 25, 2009 @04:01PM (#674293)
NPR will have to use other sources to verify the information people on the internet submit. They can build it so that the submitted information isn't publicly available until it's verified.

Perhaps if they get multiple people suggesting that a particular person is this person, then that may be a good indicator.

Re:NPR Crowdsources ID of lobbyists at congressional health ... by mlLK on Thursday June 25, 2009 @07:10PM (#674593)
Could someone put into proper context why this is crowdsourcing? It's an interesting application but I don't think it has anything to do with crowdsourcing.
Re:NPR Crowdsources ID of lobbyists at congressional health ... by stjohn on Thursday June 25, 2009 @08:43PM (#674715)
They ask people to email them if they know anyone in the pictures.