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Re:The second operating system hiding in every mobile phone by superuser2 on Thursday November 14, 2013 @01:29AM (#6730928)
If you cause the device you own to operate according to your own will (i.e. the core concept of FOSS) instead of the will of the carrier, there is a strong likelihood it will cause a denial or degradation of service for everyone else.

Verizon has the right to transmit on spectrum allocated to it using consumer devices as its agents. It employs engineers and QA processes to make sure that any device transmitting on its spectrum plays well with others before it is allowed to leave RF-isolated testing facilities.

The public does not and should not have the right to transmit on Verizon's spectrum, even using devices they own which are legally and technically capable, except according to Verizon's carefully vetted programming. If they were able to run their own radio firmware, you'd have the situation described in the parent.

Cellular radios necessarily cannot be open source. The source could be released for inspection and audit, but it cannot be possible or permissible for you to run modified source on "your" radios.

Re:The second operating system hiding in every mobile phone by emhs on Thursday November 14, 2013 @03:52PM (#6735470)
> The source could be released for inspection and audit,

Dude, that's exactly what he asked for.

Re:The second operating system hiding in every mobile phone by superuser2 on Thursday November 14, 2013 @04:04PM (#6735563)
Open source encompasses permission to modify and redistribute. Disclosed source != open source, which is what was advocated upthread.

Parent claimed that modifying the source wouldn't hurt anything since your phone can't transmit in ways you're not licensed to, but this is incorrect.

Re:The second operating system hiding in every mobile phone by emhs on Friday November 15, 2013 @11:55AM (#6740470)
Open source != free (libre) baseband hardware that you can directly modify the software on. Being able to compile and modify is fine and has no impact on the network if you're not able to run it on the primary network.