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Re:Bill Gates: My Plan to Improve Our World, and How You Can... by specialist on Tuesday November 12, 2013 @11:44PM (#6723401)
> I don't see anything particularly dire about our current state of affairs at all.

Misremembering, but there's a Soviet era quote about being 3 days away from revolt. People need to eat.

Yes, Life (sic) will find a way. But governments are far more brittle. Should we (humanity) experience food riots, things will get very bad very quickly.

Re:Bill Gates: My Plan to Improve Our World, and How You Can... by mistermann on Wednesday November 13, 2013 @12:40AM (#6723571)
Being constantly 3 days away from a revolt if we somehow had all our stored food stocks vanish isn't what I'd call a dire situation, considering most countries have been living under this state for a very long time. The only way to eliminate this highly unlikely possibility is for everyone to grow their own food, not exactly a recipe for a high standard of living. Personally, I'll gladly accept the risk associated with our present food supply mechanism and mitigate risks accordingly (my family could easily live for well over a month on the food stored in my pantry.)
Re:Bill Gates: My Plan to Improve Our World, and How You Can... by specialist on Wednesday November 13, 2013 @01:02AM (#6723640)
Please name one country with severe chronic food security where you'd choose to live.

Food won't vanish, like poof. It's about the disruption. That's when "normal" channels drys up and food is only available thru the black market. During a famine, there's always plenty of food. But the speculators withhold supply and the consumers don't have enough cash. (Note that I said cash, vs credit or savings.)

That's when people starve. That's when civil society (law and order) breaks down.

Re:Bill Gates: My Plan to Improve Our World, and How You Can... by mistermann on Wednesday November 13, 2013 @11:08AM (#6726097)
Have we changed the subject? I was disputing the general assertion "don't pretend the current situation is anything but dire" to which you replied that at any time we (anyone, I presumed) are 3 ways away from revolt due to lack of food. Certainly there are regions in the world where the food supply is more tenuous than others, but in those cases it has nothing to do with environment and everything to do with politics and corruption.

I'm all for fixing corruption and increasing transparency of governance worldwide, including here at home.

Re:Bill Gates: My Plan to Improve Our World, and How You Can... by specialist on Wednesday November 13, 2013 @11:19AM (#6726179)
Have we changed the subject?

Perhaps. I've been accused of having a random free association narrative most of the time. :)

We seem largely on the same page about the challenges. So we're cool. I'm far more pessimistic than most people. For instance, I believe we're already way past the tipping point on climate change, per the opinions of the experts, and most people aren't there yet.