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Re:Media for Thinking the Unthinkable by nightski on Monday November 04, 2013 @11:18PM (#6673205)
But you see, once you get the point where no one can draw pretty pictures about what you are working on requires your mind to be trained in this cognitive shit work (imagination?). So we'll develop a generation of people who never really learn to think creatively. Everything is just handed to you in a pretty little interactive diagram.

Learning is hard, but that is a good thing. It's like exercise. The more you work at it, the easier it becomes.

Re:Media for Thinking the Unthinkable by felipeerias on Tuesday November 05, 2013 @12:59PM (#6676679)
Yours is a very sad comment.

The author gives a good example here, if you choose to read it:

http://worrydream.com/MediaForThinkingTheUnthinkable/note.ht...

Basically, Claude Shannon was able to create his information theory because he could use things like calculus, probability, stochastic processes and graph theory to aid his thought process. He needed those tools to be able to think things that would have been unthinkable without them.

Re:Media for Thinking the Unthinkable by nightski on Tuesday November 05, 2013 @09:38PM (#6680196)
Of course I read it. Just like I watched all of his videos. There is no substance. Of course he was able to create information theory because of calculus, probability, stochastic processes, and graph theory. Yet for none of those did he need Brett Victor's cute little animations. I am merely stating that Brett is adding nothing to the equation here.
Re:Media for Thinking the Unthinkable by FkZ on Tuesday November 05, 2013 @12:01PM (#6676211)
Are you seriously saying that if scientific papers contain parts that lets us visualize their contents interactivity human being will lose the ability to think creatively?
Re:Media for Thinking the Unthinkable by nightski on Tuesday November 05, 2013 @12:33PM (#6676450)
What I am saying is that the intended audience of those scientific papers rarely need the interactive diagrams (the equations & math are enough - most of us for example can visualize logarithms quite trivially).

But those who do not have the necessary math background - this will not really help them at all. Sure they might have some understanding of this particular algorithm - but when it comes to abstraction and extending that knowledge to other problems I do not believe it will scale. You do not have the fundamentals to think creatively (in a mathematical sense).

The circuit for example. They might now understand how that circuit behaves. But if I show them a completely different circuit can they infer how it behaves? Likely no, they were not able to pick up on all the non-linear behavior that occurs within circuits.