Re:Superfast rock-paper-scissors robot wins every time
by Steko on Monday November 04, 2013 @02:42PM
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"I can guarantee I win every time against that robot. I'd just remove the power source."
Version 3 turns off the human crew's life support if you try and remove it's power source.
Version 4 uses time travel to kill your parents.
Re:Superfast rock-paper-scissors robot wins every time
by raybeorn on Monday November 04, 2013 @01:42PM
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Winning is winning, no matter how you do it? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobayashi_Maru#James_T._Kirk.27...
Re:Superfast rock-paper-scissors robot wins every time
by jasonlotito on Monday November 04, 2013 @01:59PM
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If a win is defined as conditions A + B + C, and you only complete A and C, can you win?
Re:Superfast rock-paper-scissors robot wins every time
by sp332 on Monday November 04, 2013 @01:57PM
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At that point, you're not even playing the same game, so how can you claim you've won?
Re:Superfast rock-paper-scissors robot wins every time
by ISL on Monday November 04, 2013 @02:40PM
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Because you become Captain of the Starship Enterprise?
Or, because you've achieved the mission goals?
Re:Superfast rock-paper-scissors robot wins every time
by sp332 on Monday November 04, 2013 @02:51PM
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Kirk only got a commendation for that. He had to work for a long time after the Kobayashi Maru incident to get the Enterprise.
You're begging the question. Achieving the same goals with different rules is a different game. Using stilts and a machine gun to get a ball in a hoop is not basketball.
Re:Superfast rock-paper-scissors robot wins every time
by ISL on Monday November 04, 2013 @03:40PM
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Yes, it's not a valid solution to the game of basketball, but it is a valid solution to the "get a ball in a hoop" game.
I don't think the Kobayashi Maru test rules said anything about "don't try to break the game". Success can result from relaxing an irrelevant requirement.
Re:Superfast rock-paper-scissors robot wins every time
by sp332 on Monday November 04, 2013 @04:06PM
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It's not irrelevant if it's the difference between winning and losing. Since you're already rewriting the scenario, why not just declare yourself the winner from the start? It would save a lot of effort.
Re:Superfast rock-paper-scissors robot wins every time
by ISL on Monday November 04, 2013 @05:28PM
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Because the people aboard the Kobayashi Maru might live?
Re:Superfast rock-paper-scissors robot wins every time
by biot on Monday November 04, 2013 @04:02PM
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Or suggest what the other person should do, as Derren Brown does: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf82QOqJTt8
However, if we are okay with using all your abilities to win and not count that as cheating, I can guarantee I win every time against that robot. I'd just remove the power source.