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Re:Fake femme fatale dupes IT guys at US government agency by beachstartup on Sunday November 03, 2013 @04:14PM (#6665088)
> (if we weren't stupid that way birth rates would probably be 1/100th of what they are now)

uh, no. very attractive women don't have kids with the legions of dorks that give them unearned help throughout their life. in any industry.

women aren't stupid. they're actually very smart.

Re:Fake femme fatale dupes IT guys at US government agency by Amadou on Sunday November 03, 2013 @04:27PM (#6665159)
Your assumption does not follow from what I wrote, in fact it is practically the reverse since my point was that any industry is vulnerable.

It isn't just "dorks" who give even marginally attractive women special treatment - there are very few categories of men who don't (primarily gay men). Try this experiment out in real life - any time you see a man helping a female stranger with anything consider if he would do the same for a male stranger. The number of times a straight guy will go out of his way for another man who isn't a friend is practically zero.

women aren't stupid. they're actually very smart.

The idea that women deliberately take advantage of "dorks" sounds vaguely bitter and misogynistic.

Re:Fake femme fatale dupes IT guys at US government agency by a3n on Sunday November 03, 2013 @05:23PM (#6665396)
> The idea that women deliberately take advantage of "dorks" sounds vaguely bitter and misogynistic.

And human.

It happens enough that it's a (probably undeserved) stereotype.

People are no damn good, regardless of gender. Or at least, enough of them are no good to give a bad name to the rest of us. We suck.

Re:Fake femme fatale dupes IT guys at US government agency by beachstartup on Sunday November 03, 2013 @04:28PM (#6665167)
> there are very few categories of men who don't.

yeah, exactly. those are the guys who are getting with the attractive women.

specifically, high value men who don't give handouts.

also, dorks isn't exclusive to IT. every industry has dorks.

Re:Fake femme fatale dupes IT guys at US government agency by gaius on Sunday November 03, 2013 @04:35PM (#6665197)
Oh, you're a "PUA". Good luck with that.
Re:Fake femme fatale dupes IT guys at US government agency by kbenson on Sunday November 03, 2013 @08:21PM (#6666110)
I would hardly call not falling over yourself to help a pretty member of the opposite sex purely because of their attractiveness the same as the targeted psychological games pick up artists use. One is manipulation, the other is having some self respect.
Re:Fake femme fatale dupes IT guys at US government agency by beachstartup on Sunday November 03, 2013 @04:47PM (#6665250)
i'm not really sure what you're referring to, but i'm talking about pretty basic human psychology.
Re:Fake femme fatale dupes IT guys at US government agency by gaius on Sunday November 03, 2013 @04:34PM (#6665192)
Women are people. Some are very smart, some are stupid, in the same proportions as men. For every male IT worker who's been duped by an attractive women, there's a female secretary who thinks her boss is really going to leave his wife for her.
Re:Fake femme fatale dupes IT guys at US government agency by beachstartup on Sunday November 03, 2013 @04:53PM (#6665276)
i agree - men thinking a commitment/favor/gifts will get them sex is about as stupid as women thinking sex will get them a commitment/favor/gifts.

anyone who's ever been in an adult relationship could tell you as much.

Re:Fake femme fatale dupes IT guys at US government agency by MrBuddyCasino on Sunday November 03, 2013 @05:31PM (#6665425)
> stupid as women thinking sex will get them a commitment/favor/gifts

You can't be serious? This happens a lot, I can't imagine how one cannot see it.

Re:Fake femme fatale dupes IT guys at US government agency by xerophtye on Monday November 04, 2013 @12:45AM (#6667063)
I believe this was in reference to the girls duped by guys into giving up sex. Where girls think that now that they have had sex, they are bound together. Like that comment about the secretary hoping for the boss to leave his wife
Re:Fake femme fatale dupes IT guys at US government agency by ye on Sunday November 03, 2013 @05:29PM (#6665416)
> in the same proportions as men

Women are actually smarter than men on average, or so IQ tests tell us.

Re:Fake femme fatale dupes IT guys at US government agency by gaius on Monday November 04, 2013 @12:11AM (#6666963)
Whites are smarter than blacks, according to IQ tests too. That's why IQ testing is discredited now.
Re:Fake femme fatale dupes IT guys at US government agency by icecreampain on Sunday November 03, 2013 @06:10PM (#6665579)
That must explain why men are outnumbered in science and business, right?
Re:Fake femme fatale dupes IT guys at US government agency by rglullis on Sunday November 03, 2013 @06:16PM (#6665600)
Looks like someone need a lesson about standard deviations before making snarky comments.
Re:Fake femme fatale dupes IT guys at US government agency by jessaustin on Sunday November 03, 2013 @10:37PM (#6666647)
To be fair, that was responding to a comment that was almost as dumb, although it weaseled out with that "IQ tests tell us" clause.
Re:Fake femme fatale dupes IT guys at US government agency by euroclydon on Sunday November 03, 2013 @09:36PM (#6666412)
Or the opposite of your conclusion: Women in Science: http://philip.greenspun.com/careers/women-in-science
Re:Fake femme fatale dupes IT guys at US government agency by ye on Sunday November 03, 2013 @07:49PM (#6665969)
What does the number of women in science or business have to do with smartness?

Most businesses are pretty stupid, if you think about it - buy cheap sell high, or produce something people need.

As for science, it's mostly tedious research by poor PhD students with professors taking most of the credit. Occasionally there's a breakthrough, a cause for celebration (and hopefully real world application).

Re:Fake femme fatale dupes IT guys at US government agency by dopamean on Sunday November 03, 2013 @04:16PM (#6665100)
You're ruining the dream bud.