Re:Can Snowden be targeted using the Adobe breach?
by judofyr on Saturday November 02, 2013 @09:31AM
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Think about it like this: Using a SHA256 + global salt is nothing different from using SHA256 with a different set of constants/initial values.
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Re:Can Snowden be targeted using the Adobe breach?
by oliwary on Saturday November 02, 2013 @12:36PM
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True, but if the global salt is secret, it'll at least make it slightly harder for the attacker to figure out the password.
For example, if the password is "a" and an unique salt is available in the database, it'll be trivial to brute force. If the password function is something like this, however: sha256("longsalt" + password + salt) the attacker will first have to figure out longsalt which can be slow if it's long.
Or am I completely mistaken?
Re:Can Snowden be targeted using the Adobe breach?
by pmjordan on Saturday November 02, 2013 @03:30PM
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If you can steal the password hash database, stealing the shared "salt" is usually going to be trivial. Second, lots of hash functions are vulnerable to length extension attacks, so even if extracting the shared secret directly is hard, you can probably exploit the system to see what an empty password hashes to and then use that as a basis for brute-forcing the rest.
In other words: there is a reason why security experts and cryptographers recommend the password storage mechanisms they do.
Re:Can Snowden be targeted using the Adobe breach?
by oliwary on Saturday November 02, 2013 @05:45PM
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I see, that makes sense. Thanks for explaining!