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Re:It’s time for Silicon Valley to ask: Is it worth it? by nitrogen on Friday November 01, 2013 @03:08AM (#6652274)
I'm beginning to see the PR value of having a clear, consistent message and sticking to it, which I believe may be the point to which your fellow commenter alludes.

A willingness by one side of a debate to consider arguments that favor the other side could be perceived (or misrepresented) as weakness and counted in favor of the debating opponent.

Re:It’s time for Silicon Valley to ask: Is it worth it? by ctoth on Friday November 01, 2013 @01:43PM (#6655123)
Re:It’s time for Silicon Valley to ask: Is it worth it? by mpyne on Friday November 01, 2013 @04:08PM (#6656055)
Well, that was the same theory behind the Republican effort to defund Obamacare by shutting down the government and breaking the debt ceiling. Stay relentlessly on message and get what you want. Obviously, that was not a PR success.

I prefer the system where we actually talk to each other to see which ideas make sense and which ones are insane instead of trying to debate via religion.

Re:It’s time for Silicon Valley to ask: Is it worth it? by nitrogen on Friday November 01, 2013 @06:22PM (#6656906)
Well, that was the same theory behind the Republican effort to defund Obamacare by shutting down the government and breaking the debt ceiling. Stay relentlessly on message and get what you want. Obviously, that was not a PR success.

We're not congress, though, we're an interest group. We want congresspeople to debate, reason, and compromise; we ideally want interest groups to do the same, but I fear it may be necessary for at least some of us to be relentlessly consistent in our appearance, to counteract the relentlessness of the other sides (NSA, RIAA, etc.).

I prefer the system where we actually talk to each other to see which ideas make sense and which ones are insane instead of trying to debate via religion.

So do I, but we don't necessarily exist within that system.