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Re:Toyota's firmware: Bad design and its consequences by he_the_great on Tuesday October 29, 2013 @10:24PM (#6639046)
> It takes power steering with it though,

That is what sucks about cars with power steering, they don't get any of the benefit a car built with no power steering does.

Re:Toyota's firmware: Bad design and its consequences by drbawb on Wednesday October 30, 2013 @11:42AM (#6641074)
I had my old Caravan chew threw a serpentine belt once...

Getting that boat of a minivan around the next corner in traffic was both entertaining, dangerous, and probably the best upper-body workout I got that year.