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Re:Toyota's firmware: Bad design and its consequences by twistedpair on Tuesday October 29, 2013 @06:50PM (#6638083)
Failsafes don't always fail safely. Take the unmanned Chicago subway train that cruised through the failsafes and crashed into another train, two weeks ago. Another article quotes a CTA official as not knowing how it could have escaped the yard without the brakes tripping.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/04/cta-blue-line-crash...

Re:Toyota's firmware: Bad design and its consequences by wanderr on Wednesday October 30, 2013 @03:44AM (#6640059)
Reminds me of http://www.amazon.com/Systemantics-Systems-Work-Especially-T... "Fail-safe systems fail by failing to fail safe." - John Gall
Re:Toyota's firmware: Bad design and its consequences by warfangle on Tuesday October 29, 2013 @11:40PM (#6639321)
Yowch! I hadn't heard about that.