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Re:Ask HN: Why the Microsoft hate? by CamperBob2 on Wednesday October 23, 2013 @10:42PM (#6603130)
It's called "mental context."

Also, what kind of drugs does one need to ingest to make it seem like a good idea to enforce UI conventions optimized for 4" cell phones on a user with a pair of 30" desktop monitors? Are we talking plant-based alkaloids, aromatic hydrocarbons, or what?

Re:Ask HN: Why the Microsoft hate? by xerophtye on Friday October 25, 2013 @02:34AM (#6610123)
I guess it's a person to person thing. I am still on win7 and i usually have a lot of windows open, and i rarely ever browse through the start menu. What i usually do is press the windows button, and start typing the name of the program i wanna use. OR I press win+D to get straight to the desktop (a full screen menu consisting of things i frequently use) and choose from there.

So for someone like me, isn't the Metro Start menu good design? It has both the type-to-search thing and a full screen menu of icons i usually use.

Look i admit it seemed a little intimidating when i first saw it. Heck we have been using the start menu for more than a decade! It's almost part of our DNA now, so seeing the entire screen change in place of a menu is.... unexpected. But is it really that bad? Do you REALLY still browse through the start menu?

Re:Ask HN: Why the Microsoft hate? by CamperBob2 on Friday October 25, 2013 @03:04PM (#6613796)
What i usually do is press the windows button, and start typing the name of the program i wanna use.

This debate was settled when Windows replaced MS-DOS. Most users do not want to remember, or type, the names of the programs they want to use.

Do you REALLY still browse through the start menu?

Yes, frequently.

Re:Ask HN: Why the Microsoft hate? by xerophtye on Friday October 25, 2013 @03:46PM (#6614061)
Then you are simply a different user type.

Btw I presume from the bit about ms dos that you dont llike shells. But thats ur preference

Re:Ask HN: Why the Microsoft hate? by CamperBob2 on Saturday October 26, 2013 @01:13PM (#6618171)
No, I live at the Windows command prompt, pretty much. But like you said, I'm a different user type.

The difference between me and the people at Microsoft is that I understand that there are different user types. None of which asked for their desktop PC to behave more like their cell phone.

Re:Ask HN: Why the Microsoft hate? by xerophtye on Saturday October 26, 2013 @01:31PM (#6618275)
Exactly. That was the big mistake behind windows 8. Their "one interface for all devices" idea. We didnt WANT same interface on all devices