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Re:What happens when you're #1 on Hacker News for a day by seanmcdirmid on Saturday October 19, 2013 @08:38PM (#6578539)
As a struggling writer, I value some amount of vitriolic/venom/sarcasm as color that can make an otherwise dry post read better; pure bland information alone is hard to digest without sugar or even grapefruit bitterness. I'm not able to do it very well, so I don't try, but I see value in those that can. The commenter's post was informative, colorful, and tasteful in my opinion, but I understand there are also people out there who are extremely sensitive and easily offended...like say those who find many flavors offensive and prefer blandness.

But as for my original point, I would always trust the snarker in this case over the harmonious river crab: based on my experience, the former's information is actually more useful than the latter's. Call it an imperfect generalization.

Re:What happens when you're #1 on Hacker News for a day by doorhammer on Saturday October 19, 2013 @09:18PM (#6578642)
Yeah, I can understand that perspective, and I'm really conflicted about that kind of thing. I try to ascribe to a pragmatists view of it. I should say that I'm also not someone who has done a lot of formal study of communication and education, but I tend to think that abrasive language tends to stifle discourse to a point.

I'm amenable to the idea that it's got its place and that it can be useful. I just wonder how often it's useful compared to how often it's used.

To me it's a matter of figuring out whether or not you're really trying to educate as many people as you can, and which delivery method is most powerful for that goal. I think you can accomplish that without attacking someone else. Of course there's the idea that emotional responses can catalyze a more poignant memory, and as you say, draw more attention to your point.

shrug

And this is why I drink.

edit: (in reference to the response below) I should say that I've abstracted away from the concrete post that triggered all of this. Either way, this is the kind of dialogue I like. You can disagree on some things, get something out of it, and never have to get in anyone's face)

Re:What happens when you're #1 on Hacker News for a day by seanmcdirmid on Saturday October 19, 2013 @09:54PM (#6578710)
Fair enough. I could not pull off this style very tastefully myself, so I would avoid it. Also, the lines between bland, colorful, abrasive, and abusive are not clear and are drawn differently for different people.

I'm not sure if it is fair to say the commenter was "attacking someone" unless they were spewing out ad hominems, of which I didn't see any.