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Re:IBM Watson fires its own cancer-fighting ‘moonshot’ by dnautics on Friday October 18, 2013 @08:45PM (#6574852)
Instead of Jeopardy, I always wanted Watson to go on "are you smarter than a fifth grader" and throw questions like "think of the second color of the rainbow. What large bird starts with the same first letter?"

Or: "If I call A 5, B 4, and C 3, then what do I call D?"

As a scientist (working on cancer, no less), more than just churning through terabytes of data, it strikes me that THESE sorts of questions are the ones you'll need to be able to answer. There's also a lot of "reading between the lines" you'll need to do, and a lot of "small pattern extrapolation". For example, the drug candidate I'm working on is one of a family of about let's say, 16 known compounds. All of them kill cancer cells, fourteen are cardiotoxic. The two that are not, lack a single oxygen atom. Maybe that oxygen atom lets the molecule block the mitochondrion (sort of important for heart cells)? Why? Because the molecule family looks sort of like Coenzyme Q10 - if you use your imagination and remember some of your chemical reactivity rules from Grad-level Ochem - and supplementation of Q10 alleviated the cardiotoxicity in one study on rats for one of the molecules.

Ultimately, my previous boss was bold enough to latch onto that and give it a shot - can we take this molecule that is the most potent of the group (but unfortunately cardiotoxic), delete the homologous oxygen atom and make something that still works and is less cardiotoxic?

Re:IBM Watson fires its own cancer-fighting ‘moonshot’ by samstave on Saturday October 19, 2013 @12:00AM (#6575280)
>Ultimately, my previous boss was bold enough to latch onto that and give it a shot - can we take this molecule that is the most potent of the group (but unfortunately cardiotoxic), delete the homologous oxygen atom and make something that still works and is less cardiotoxic?

And? Did it work?

ELI5 - how do you delete the oxygen atom? How is the new compound replicable at a scale where you have lots of it?

THanks - I am fascinated by this - but am completely ignorant. Thanks

Re:IBM Watson fires its own cancer-fighting ‘moonshot’ by dnautics on Saturday October 19, 2013 @01:40PM (#6577125)
It worked well enough that I'm starting a nonprofit (http://indysci.org) in part to continue the work (by "previous boss", I mean, she quit her job as a professor - so the whole thing is the pharma equivalent of abandonware). It was 5 times less cardiotoxic by design, and not by design, it was 10 times more potent.

You delete the oxygen atom by doing something called mutasynthesis, if you want a better description email me, I'm literally going to the bank right now to open the account for the nonprofit:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=yonemoto+gerratana (click on "free PMC article")

It's scaleable since the hacked bacteria do all the heavy lifting.

Re:IBM Watson fires its own cancer-fighting ‘moonshot’ by jknightco on Friday October 18, 2013 @11:40PM (#6575239)
I'm legitimately stumped. Which large bird starts with 'O'? Or is it second from the top.. so an Ibis?
Re:IBM Watson fires its own cancer-fighting ‘moonshot’ by ramchip on Friday October 18, 2013 @11:43PM (#6575246)
Ostrich?
Re:IBM Watson fires its own cancer-fighting ‘moonshot’ by jknightco on Friday October 18, 2013 @11:47PM (#6575254)
I'm going to go sit in the corner and cry now.

Thanks!

Re:IBM Watson fires its own cancer-fighting ‘moonshot’ by protomyth on Saturday October 19, 2013 @12:00AM (#6575281)
Only one I thought of relates to baseball. Didn't think it was large.

Edit: for some reason ramchip I keep missing that one when the subject of birds comes up

Re:IBM Watson fires its own cancer-fighting ‘moonshot’ by mkingston on Saturday October 19, 2013 @08:16AM (#6576136)
Large is relative. I thought Owl, Osprey. Ostrich (another comment) is of course larger. Guess your answer depends on your training set.