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Re:Project Megaphone: Fight Surveillance With 9 Lines of Code by DanBC on Thursday October 17, 2013 @07:40PM (#6568898)
Are the Facebook and G+ buttons some form of satire?

EDIT: Mass surveillance by any government is bad. Surveillance by NSA or GCHQ is bad. But the abuse of privacy coming from spammers and marketers and the walled garden of whatever social network are all far more harmful to the Internet than whatever GCHQ or NSA are doing.

Re:Project Megaphone: Fight Surveillance With 9 Lines of Code by bendoernberg on Thursday October 17, 2013 @07:44PM (#6568918)
Different people have different philosophies. Some people have stopped using FB and G+ because they know their actions will be monitored. I choose to share these links because I don't want to censor myself out of fear of surveillance. Both approaches are totally valid, and everyone can choose to share on social media, or not.
Re:Project Megaphone: Fight Surveillance With 9 Lines of Code by sinak on Thursday October 17, 2013 @07:46PM (#6568929)
And the site uses https://github.com/tfrce/share-server so no user information/IP address/browser headers are shared with any third parties unless you click the buttons.
Re:Project Megaphone: Fight Surveillance With 9 Lines of Code by brymaster on Friday October 18, 2013 @03:03AM (#6570162)
There's also "two clicks for better privacy" like Heise.de started and that Scheiner also uses on his blog. http://www.heise.de/extras/socialshareprivacy/ & https://github.com/panzi/SocialSharePrivacy
Re:Project Megaphone: Fight Surveillance With 9 Lines of Code by Zigurd on Thursday October 17, 2013 @08:10PM (#6569033)
> ...the abuse of privacy coming from spammers and marketers and the walled garden of whatever social network are all far more harmful..."

I'll take having a targeted ad for Sony cameras follow me from site to site over being a drone target.

Re:Project Megaphone: Fight Surveillance With 9 Lines of Code by by_Seeing on Thursday October 17, 2013 @07:12PM (#6568800)
At least the government is open again so they can see the rally.
Re:Project Megaphone: Fight Surveillance With 9 Lines of Code by detcader on Thursday October 17, 2013 @07:42PM (#6568906)
I feel like the people who would want to go to this rally would already have loc services disabled..
Re:Project Megaphone: Fight Surveillance With 9 Lines of Code by sinak on Thursday October 17, 2013 @07:45PM (#6568926)
It's geoip, so you don't need to have location services enabled to take part. And it's disabled on mobile.
Re:Project Megaphone: Fight Surveillance With 9 Lines of Code by chris_mahan on Thursday October 17, 2013 @07:37PM (#6568888)
and if someone cracks into the cloudfront account and modifies the js... not good...
Re:Project Megaphone: Fight Surveillance With 9 Lines of Code by sinak on Thursday October 17, 2013 @07:47PM (#6568937)
Same applies anytime you use external javascript, no? Or in fact, anytime you use AWS to host your site?
Re:Project Megaphone: Fight Surveillance With 9 Lines of Code by sinak on Thursday October 17, 2013 @07:55PM (#6568973)
That being said, I can totally understand why you might not want to add third party code to your site.

In that case, I think the best route is to take the html and add it to your site yourself. You can actually even host the js locally if you want. The call to our geoip server just returns json, so shouldn't be a threat: http://geoip.taskforce.is/

But if you want to host that part as well, it's open source too: https://github.com/tfrce/node-geoip-web

Re:Project Megaphone: Fight Surveillance With 9 Lines of Code by chris_mahan on Monday October 21, 2013 @05:09PM (#6588230)
True, and this is why I am not hosting at AWS, and why I don't use third party javascript. (I have a few remnant adwords js blocks in some of my pages, but I am taking them out when I come across them.)
Re:Project Megaphone: Fight Surveillance With 9 Lines of Code by aaronem on Thursday October 17, 2013 @07:35PM (#6568883)
"...sound and fury. Signifying nothing."
Re:Project Megaphone: Fight Surveillance With 9 Lines of Code by bendoernberg on Thursday October 17, 2013 @07:46PM (#6568928)
What're you getting at? The full quote is "It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury Signifying nothing."
Re:Project Megaphone: Fight Surveillance With 9 Lines of Code by unimpressive on Thursday October 17, 2013 @07:49PM (#6568943)
I'm assuming something akin to what I posted some months ago:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5921688

Re:Project Megaphone: Fight Surveillance With 9 Lines of Code by bendoernberg on Thursday October 17, 2013 @07:52PM (#6568959)
Is there an alternative you'd recommend?
Re:Project Megaphone: Fight Surveillance With 9 Lines of Code by unimpressive on Thursday October 17, 2013 @07:55PM (#6568975)
Not particularly. In this case it was more of a clarification of somebody else's words than my own opinion.

Public pressure works to an extent, but it's dangerous to use it, because if you can't get a sizable number of people to show up it signals weakness.

Re:Project Megaphone: Fight Surveillance With 9 Lines of Code by aaronem on Thursday October 17, 2013 @08:28PM (#6569087)
There's also the much more substantive consideration that "public pressure", in the shape of a rally like this one, only works at all if there's a credible threat of meaningful action if the presented demands aren't fulfilled. There being no chance of that here, the upcoming rally is little more than a chance for the soi-disant protesters to get out in the fresh air and reassure themselves that they're Doing Something Meaningful.
Re:Project Megaphone: Fight Surveillance With 9 Lines of Code by sinak on Friday October 18, 2013 @03:32AM (#6570227)
It's not just a rally, we're also arranging a citizen lobby day for constituents to meet with their representatives and talk to them about why this is important: https://rally.stopwatching.us/lobbyday.html
Re:Project Megaphone: Fight Surveillance With 9 Lines of Code by aaronem on Friday October 18, 2013 @01:08PM (#6572477)
Oh, well, that's totally different, of course!
Re:Project Megaphone: Fight Surveillance With 9 Lines of Code by aaronem on Thursday October 17, 2013 @08:32PM (#6569096)
Acknowledgement of powerlessness and healthy disengagement in favor of more worthwhile ways of spending one's time. I appreciate it's not for everyone, but I have to say it's done wonders for my peace of mind.
Re:Project Megaphone: Fight Surveillance With 9 Lines of Code by bendoernberg on Thursday October 17, 2013 @09:08PM (#6569197)
I have a hard time imagining anything worthwhile that could come from powerlessness and disengagement.
Re:Project Megaphone: Fight Surveillance With 9 Lines of Code by aaronem on Friday October 18, 2013 @12:23AM (#6569767)
No doubt. Consider, though, that only disengagement is a choice; whether or not you have power is not up to you. (You don't.)
Re:Project Megaphone: Fight Surveillance With 9 Lines of Code by aaronem on Thursday October 17, 2013 @08:23PM (#6569070)
That's it exactly.
Re:Project Megaphone: Fight Surveillance With 9 Lines of Code by sashaeslami on Thursday October 17, 2013 @06:57PM (#6568742)
hells yeah.
Re:Project Megaphone: Fight Surveillance With 9 Lines of Code by by_Seeing on Thursday October 17, 2013 @07:10PM (#6568788)
nuff said.