Re:Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)
by Theriac25 on Thursday October 17, 2013 @02:30PM
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That's just beyond retarded. I weep when people have been conditioned by Canonical (and Microsoft) to accept this.
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Here's a video of a continuous upgrade from ms-dos through every windows version all up to windows 7 (a timespan of ~20 years) that proves it's possible. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPnehDhGa14
The whole time I was watching this I was thinking, how would I explain to a normal human being why it is that I can't look away. Windows 3.0 especially took me back to my adolescence, like a smell.
Re:Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)
by bashinator on Thursday October 17, 2013 @03:25PM
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Especially since the upstream distro (Debian) is absolutely phenomenal when it comes to in-place major upgrades.
It's not all Canonical's faults. A highly customized install with a few extra libs here and there and some proprietary softare can easily wreck havoc on a system.
I had a continuous Arch install for 4 years without massive breakage through half a dozen major switches, including the fs layout and the systemd transition.
I just upgraded to an SSD and decided to clean slate rather than carry extra fs creep baggage that isn't linked to a package to remove, but I still have that partition around, and I'm pretty sure if I upgraded it it might still boot.
It is why I like rolling releases - rather than have catastrophic breakage every half year, you continuously migrate upwards. It means occasionally you need to pull up a web browser to see why your desktop is missing, but its better than doing a dist-upgrade and getting an unbootable system.
The same problem persisted after I did a fresh install, so in this case there is something that it doesn't like about my computer, a Lenovo G780.
Re:Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)
by icebraining on Friday October 18, 2013 @05:12AM
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My Debian installation has been the same for six years and survived moving from Gnome → XFCE → Fluxbox → Awesome and installing bleeding-edge mesa and radeon drivers, plus other kinds on tinkering. Oh, and moving to an SSD.