Re:U.S. eavesdropping agency chief, top deputy expected to d...
by PeterisP on Wednesday October 16, 2013 @07:28PM
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We're still not seeing charges for intentional lying under oath to congress. Well, it's not going to happen, but one can still dream of equal treatment under law, no?
I can believe that he's a good man and he did it with good intentions - but it's important for the society to state that actions like THAT are unpatriotic (literally, against one's nation and people) and immoral, unlike whistleblowing.
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by dobbsbob on Wednesday October 16, 2013 @08:40PM
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Political theatre. New guys will be even worse, and can stall investigations pretending not to know what is happening hoping the calls for inquiry disappear
Re:U.S. eavesdropping agency chief, top deputy expected to d...
by lsc on Thursday October 17, 2013 @03:38AM
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The title, coming from Reuters, is a little bit shocking. I mean, I'd expect the NSA to be referred to as "Eavesdropping agency" here, but that Reuters does it implies that this feeling is mainstream and widespread, which was not my previous impression.
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by Amadou on Wednesday October 16, 2013 @09:26PM
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Perhaps replace them with Snowden and let him deal with them?
That's almost as crazy as putting a man in jail for terrorism and then later electing him to be president - without an armed revolution in the interim.
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by icecreampain on Thursday October 17, 2013 @01:58AM
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Nelson Mandela was the head of a terrorist organisation that targeted civilians in its efforts to gain power by violent revolution.
See Nkonto N Sizwe, the Church Street bombing, Winnie Mandela's spree of "necklacing" (burning people alive with tires around their necks), etc. Mandela is not a saint nor a great leader.
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by wellboy on Wednesday October 16, 2013 @09:32PM
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Holy f^^k, imagine Snowden running for president, I think he would win. The people love him, he is not corruptable and he could make a terrific president.
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by rayiner on Wednesday October 16, 2013 @09:54PM
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What a testimonial to how out of touch people on HN are. "The people love him." Really? Depending on what poll you look at, some large percentage of the public (30-40%) considers him a traitor. Even the people who agree with what he did wouldn't ever vote for him (they care more about issues like abortion, social security, etc).
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by krapp on Wednesday October 16, 2013 @09:41PM
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>he is not corruptable
He's a human being, not a paragon of virtue. He has his price just like anyone else. Cult of personality can be a dangerous thing when electing a leader.
I can believe that he's a good man and he did it with good intentions - but it's important for the society to state that actions like THAT are unpatriotic (literally, against one's nation and people) and immoral, unlike whistleblowing.
That's almost as crazy as putting a man in jail for terrorism and then later electing him to be president - without an armed revolution in the interim.
Nelson Mandela wasn't 'Nelson Mandela' when he was sentenced to life in prison either.
See Nkonto N Sizwe, the Church Street bombing, Winnie Mandela's spree of "necklacing" (burning people alive with tires around their necks), etc. Mandela is not a saint nor a great leader.
He's a human being, not a paragon of virtue. He has his price just like anyone else. Cult of personality can be a dangerous thing when electing a leader.