France Bashing Is So 2012 (Here Is Why)

Re:France Bashing Is So 2012 (Here Is Why) by cyrillevincey on Friday October 11, 2013 @09:22AM (#6532883)

You are confusing personal taxes (up to 60% if you're rich... and stupid) and corporate taxes (which ARE 33%). The rest of your post is just your own - subjective - opinions, but I can tell from what you think that you are NOT running a business in France. By the way, I've fired 4 people in the past 6 months, and I haven't got sued. It's a question of doing it by the rules.

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Re:France Bashing Is So 2012 (Here Is Why) by VeejayRampay on Friday October 11, 2013 @09:41AM (#6532993)

> If you're rich... and stupid

Right. Cause God knows paying taxes is stupid. I hate being French when I read non-sense like that, people need to educate themselves on the reality of the French taxation system and what it entails instead of viewing it through the reductive and limited angle of "whaaaa whaaa the state is stealing my hard-earned money".

You'll think about stupid next time you go to a hospital, next time you cough the measly 20 euros up at the doctor, next time you need to send your kid to school or daycare and all that stuff that "stupid people" pay for.

For shame.

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Re:France Bashing Is So 2012 (Here Is Why) by cyrillevincey on Friday October 11, 2013 @10:07AM (#6533126)

Just saying that there are A LOT of fiscal optimizations - totally legal and publicly encouraged - to keep your taxes below 40%. Otherwise, I can't agree more with you about the chance of accessing amazingly good healthcare services for free in France. Here, Walter White would not have had to cook meth, after all...

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Re:France Bashing Is So 2012 (Here Is Why) by xutopia on Friday October 11, 2013 @10:05AM (#6533114)

I think he's folding in the "charges sociales" that companies have to pay out to the government when they offer a salary. From what I heard they're roughly 50% of the salary cost of each employee. I'm no expert though... could be different.

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Re:France Bashing Is So 2012 (Here Is Why) by cyrillevincey on Friday October 11, 2013 @10:08AM (#6533131)

For the record, 100€ net in the pocket of an employee corresponds to 180€ cost-to-company.

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Re:France Bashing Is So 2012 (Here Is Why) by p4bl0 on Friday October 11, 2013 @10:34AM (#6533329)

That's right, and that's why France have for instance some of the best hospitals in the world and why they are almost free.

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Re:France Bashing Is So 2012 (Here Is Why) by patrickaljord on Friday October 11, 2013 @01:54PM (#6534708)

They're not free, you're paying 60% minimum of your income in taxes and a good part of goes to social security. Not only is that not free but it's extremely expensive. And hospitals are not the best either, in fact I'd avoid them if I were you if you care about not getting nosocomial infections, they're famous for that.

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Re:France Bashing Is So 2012 (Here Is Why) by p4bl0 on Friday October 11, 2013 @03:29PM (#6535353)

> I'd avoid them if I were you if you care about not getting nosocomial infections, they're famous for that

HAHAHA. Okay dude.

APHP (Assistance Publique Hôpitaux de Paris) is ranked first in Europe and in the very top worldwide…

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Re:France Bashing Is So 2012 (Here Is Why) by cyrillevincey on Sunday October 13, 2013 @03:20PM (#6543787)

My son was born very prematured (6 month), he was born at Port-Royal in Paris (APHP, French public hospital), the total cost of his birth was 320k€, I did not even issue my credit card ONCE. Paid by public money. Period.

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Re:France Bashing Is So 2012 (Here Is Why) by patrickaljord on Tuesday October 15, 2013 @07:48AM (#6552664)

> I did not even issue my credit card ONCE. Paid by public money

And where do you think public money comes from? Hint: your pocket.

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