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Re:Report: 110 people own 35% of Russia's wealth by masklinn on Thursday October 10, 2013 @08:54AM (#6527270)
By comparison, the top 400 people in the US have 2.5% of the US's wealth (using Forbes's 2010 numbers of $1.37 trillion for the top 400 households, and the Federal Reserve Board's $54.9 trillion US net worth)
Re:Report: 110 people own 35% of Russia's wealth by jschulenklopper on Thursday October 10, 2013 @09:17AM (#6527408)
This is an interesting presentation (and told in a powerful way) on the wealth distribution in USA: http://www.upworthy.com/9-out-of-10-americans-are-completely...
Re:Report: 110 people own 35% of Russia's wealth by simias on Thursday October 10, 2013 @09:35AM (#6527532)
This is a terrible website tricking me into liking it on facebook. Here's the video on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM

Re:Report: 110 people own 35% of Russia's wealth by jschulenklopper on Thursday October 10, 2013 @01:54PM (#6529109)
Sorry. I guess my social media button filter is tighter than yours, as I didn't see Like-buttons at all. On top, the introduction on UpWorthy, mentioning the authors reaction when watching the story unfold, added anticipation for watching it.
Re:Report: 110 people own 35% of Russia's wealth by grannyg00se on Thursday October 10, 2013 @09:39AM (#6527563)
"All we need to do is wake up and realize that the reality is not what we think it is"

Somehow I don't think a sudden realization is going to make a whole lot of difference. To make any difference we're going to need a complete upheaval of the mechanism and culture of the country. And not just any one country. The entire global financial system is geared to support and further this kind of imbalance.

Re:Report: 110 people own 35% of Russia's wealth by tedunangst on Thursday October 10, 2013 @11:18AM (#6528184)
Here's a fun experiment: Graph what you think wealth distribution should be. Take the derivative to see what you think income should be. Take the derivative again to see what you think your raise should be.
Re:Report: 110 people own 35% of Russia's wealth by kd0amg on Thursday October 10, 2013 @04:02PM (#6529713)
Derivative with respect to what? Time, so we can get money/time as the output? Differentiating a population percentage -> wealth with respect to time doesn't sound particularly informative.
Re:Report: 110 people own 35% of Russia's wealth by tedunangst on Thursday October 10, 2013 @04:21PM (#6529803)
You're right, there's some hand waving. The point is that most people draw ridiculously flat graphs, and if you work backwards to find an income/savings rate that makes the wealth graph, it's not pretty.
Re:Report: 110 people own 35% of Russia's wealth by kutakbash on Thursday October 10, 2013 @11:45AM (#6528313)
The problem with this comparison is that choice of size of the wealthiest share of population (top 110, top 400, top one family, top 20%) greatly influences the outcome of comparison. Why won't we all just refer to good old Gini coefficient and call it a day.
Re:Report: 110 people own 35% of Russia's wealth by nether on Thursday October 10, 2013 @12:11PM (#6528449)
According to the Gini, Russia has more income equality:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_eq...

I can't imagine it being true though given this story, my experiences traveling across Siberia, and those of my roommate who is from Russia (he's been in the US for six years). You pretty much have to be a one percenter to get potable tap water (every restaurant charges for water because it's always bottled, never tap).

Re:Report: 110 people own 35% of Russia's wealth by kutakbash on Thursday October 10, 2013 @01:33PM (#6528960)
You are not supposed to drink water off the tap (well, actually you can, if you don't value your kidneys in the long run), you are supposed to filter it through $40 device or boil it, then you can drink it. That's something that everyone does, I don't see this problem, like, at all. I dunno why restaurants charge for water, maybe because they can.
Re:Report: 110 people own 35% of Russia's wealth by guard-of-terra on Thursday October 10, 2013 @12:54PM (#6528705)
Most people here don't buy bottled water because they don't have a car and/or don't care about water quality and/or don't think bottled water is superior. People use filters to filter tap water or just boil it.

Serving tap water in restaurants doesn't sound right to me. First of all, pipes might be rusty.

Re:Report: 110 people own 35% of Russia's wealth by kutakbash on Thursday October 10, 2013 @01:34PM (#6528964)
So… bottled water is superior? I thought it's essentially filtered tap water…
Re:Report: 110 people own 35% of Russia's wealth by PeterisP on Thursday October 10, 2013 @01:44PM (#6529030)
It all depends on the quality of tap water - there are locations where tap water is pretty much the same as bottled water, and there are locations where tap water isn't considered drinkable unless boiled beforehand.
Re:Report: 110 people own 35% of Russia's wealth by guard-of-terra on Thursday October 10, 2013 @03:03PM (#6529435)
Bottled water quality is predictable, your next restaurant's plumbing condition is not.

I don't like branded bottled water but at least you know what you get.

Re:Report: 110 people own 35% of Russia's wealth by masklinn on Thursday October 10, 2013 @12:29PM (#6528550)
> The problem with this comparison is that choice of size of the wealthiest share of population (top 110, top 400)

I found it fitting because it's pretty close to the same percentage of total population in either case (1 in a million)

> Why won't we all just refer to good old Gini coefficient and call it a day.

Although you can use Gini for wealth, the "usual" Gini coefficient is income.

Re:Report: 110 people own 35% of Russia's wealth by kutakbash on Thursday October 10, 2013 @01:38PM (#6528980)
Well, that's correct; Nevertheless, I think people should have been reminded that Gini coefficient exists someplace ITT.