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Re:FBI struggles to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from alleged Silk... by nether on Monday October 07, 2013 @02:20PM (#6510137)
Crazy idea: he wanted to live in SF. It's a dream for many millennials to live in SF/NYC/Chicago, including me.
Re:FBI struggles to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from alleged Silk... by refurb on Monday October 07, 2013 @02:33PM (#6510237)
You'd think his desire to stay out of prison would be stronger than his desire to live in SF.
Re:FBI struggles to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from alleged Silk... by dragonwriter on Monday October 07, 2013 @06:05PM (#6511617)
Almost every real-world criminal that ends up arrested violates several "you'd think" statements.

"You'd think" is often true when "you'd be correct to think" isn't.

Re:FBI struggles to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from alleged Silk... by lmkg on Monday October 07, 2013 @07:54PM (#6512120)
Your wording implies you're already aware of this, but I'll say it anyways:

Survivor Bias.

The criminals that do all of the obvious smart things are much less likely to get arrested. The ones that do get arrested, are disproportionately the ones that did something not-smart. The the larger the quantity and (not-)quality of their mis-steps, the more likely they are to be the one you read about for being arrested.

Living in SF seems like a fairly reasonable mistake--it's simple confidence that you won't be caught.

Re:FBI struggles to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from alleged Silk... by Natsu on Monday October 07, 2013 @09:59PM (#6512559)
Criminals face the same sort of issue DRM makers do: they only need to make one big mistake.

Some of their mistakes may go unnoticed for a long period of time, but in the long run, just one mistake is all it takes for everything to come undone.

Re:FBI struggles to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from alleged Silk... by MichaelGG on Monday October 07, 2013 @10:38PM (#6512695)
DRM is fundamentally impossible on client-controlled devices. Being a criminal is not fundamentally impossible, nor is not being caught.
Re:FBI struggles to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from alleged Silk... by Natsu on Monday October 07, 2013 @10:42PM (#6512709)
While I agree that perfect DRM is fundamentally impossible, I have no evidence of perfect criminals either.
Re:FBI struggles to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from alleged Silk... by malka on Tuesday October 08, 2013 @05:10AM (#6513725)
well, since they were not caught, you never heard of them.
Re:FBI struggles to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from alleged Silk... by dragonwriter on Tuesday October 08, 2013 @10:33AM (#6515209)
The ones that aren't caught are almost certainly not perfect criminals, either, they're just lucky criminals whose errors happen to have intersected with the gaps in imperfect law enforcement.
Re:FBI struggles to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from alleged Silk... by atwebb on Monday October 07, 2013 @03:09PM (#6510466)
I'm trying to think of a better way to phrase this but: why?
Re:FBI struggles to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from alleged Silk... by EvanKelly on Monday October 07, 2013 @04:59PM (#6511214)
Different people crave different things in a place to live. Big metropolitan cities have a certain allure to many. They're exciting, happening, and full of intersting people.

One of my goals is to put myself in a situation to live comfortably on the North Shore of Oahu in the future, because that's where I want to be.

Re:FBI struggles to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from alleged Silk... by atwebb on Tuesday October 08, 2013 @08:50AM (#6514456)
Gotcha! And I'd like to mention I wasn't trying to be snarky (not to you, just in general).

I've always had a pull away, out into a large unpopulated area and it makes complete sense that some people have the opposite. The hustle and bustle can have it's allure and with that many different people around, things are always interesting. It's night that gets me. I love stepping out into a clearing on a star filled night with no noise besides the bugs and my own feet in the leaves.

Re:FBI struggles to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from alleged Silk... by calinet6 on Monday October 07, 2013 @03:24PM (#6510552)
A better question for you is, why not?
Re:FBI struggles to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from alleged Silk... by cookiecaper on Monday October 07, 2013 @05:58PM (#6511572)
* crowded

* dirty

* traffic

* a great deal of self-important wannabes

* _astronomical_ cost of living compared to "less desirable" environs like Denver, Omaha, Salt Lake, Dallas, or other large mid/mountain west localities

* family unfriendliness, as the chic "millennial" crowd despises children

* bad politics that impact everyday life (gun ownership, etc.) and high tax rates

and there are many other reasons to _not_ want to be in one of those hotspots.

Surprising as it may seem to some of you, there are cool and interesting people everywhere.

Re:FBI struggles to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from alleged Silk... by dragonwriter on Monday October 07, 2013 @06:09PM (#6511648)
Er, all of those except the last of those reasons you give boil down to symptoms of either: a) Lots of people in general want to live there, and b) Lots of people of a generation and attitude want to live there.

(The last actually fits in (b), but for a different attitude than the others.)

And the person in question is at least of the generation, and arguably of the attitude referred to in those other than the last, so its a pretty unconvincing list of why you'd think that person wouldn't want to live there.

Re:FBI struggles to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from alleged Silk... by cookiecaper on Monday October 07, 2013 @06:31PM (#6511756)
I am of the generation and arguably the attitude of many of my contemporaries and I have no interest in, and have in fact actively avoided and denied, opportunities to relocate to those areas. It's hard to argue with California's geography but the rest of the package makes it easy to pass. The other major locales mentioned have no allure for me. Please don't be so myopic.

The subject of the article obviously was at least semi-content living in SF, as he definitely had the means to depart if he wanted to do so. My list is meant more as a general reply to "why wouldn't someone want to live in one of those places?" It may just be my background of living in several different places, but personally I have a difficult time grasping why people assume that LA, SF, NY, or Chicago are the only reasonable places to live.

And, places do not have to be dirty, crowded, or high-traffic just because a lot of people want to live there. If things are designed reasonably and the populous behaves reasonably, traffic should continue to flow, there should be adequate personal space, and thoroughfares and public places should be clean and satisfactory.

Re:FBI struggles to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from alleged Silk... by natrius on Monday October 07, 2013 @08:13PM (#6512174)
Some people have hobbies that require other people nearby who share those hobbies to work. I like improv and various other kinds of comedy. You can do that in LA, SF, NY, Chicago, and Austin (where I live). You can't do that as well in Omaha, Salt Lake or Dallas. I also like riding bikes. Cycling infrastructure requires living in an area where lots of other people agree that it's a priority. Once again, the cities you suggest don't qualify.

No man is an island. The people you surround yourself with matter.

Re:FBI struggles to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from alleged Silk... by cookiecaper on Monday October 07, 2013 @10:36PM (#6512685)
Biking is a major activity in both Utah and Colorado. Denver or SLC would be great places for a serious cyclist -- they definitely offer more interesting terrain than Austin.

I agree that dependent on the level of immersion necessary, serious improv practitioners may find places that aren't the cities you listed restrictive, but there are well-attended improv troupes in other areas.

Re:FBI struggles to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from alleged Silk... by calinet6 on Tuesday October 08, 2013 @09:13PM (#6518923)
"there are cool and interesting people everywhere"

This I agree with wholeheartedly, which is why, despite having grown up in California, I'm not currently living there and have no plans to move back in the terribly near future.

However, I think all of the other things in your list can also be found nearly everywhere. It all depends on your perspective and your desires.

For what it's worth, from someone who has a great deal of experience living in many different cities, including San Francisco, it's a perfectly serviceable place to live. It is slightly inflated at the moment due to the tech demand, but not by much; otherwise the price reflects the value.

Re:FBI struggles to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from alleged Silk... by recursive on Monday October 07, 2013 @04:14PM (#6510900)
Because you might go to jail.
Re:FBI struggles to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from alleged Silk... by aspensmonster on Monday October 07, 2013 @05:34PM (#6511431)
Because it's expensive.