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Re:A Less Risky Path to Entrepreneurship in Software Develop... by kken on Sunday October 06, 2013 @03:06PM (#6505049)
Although not completely related to the article - the headline triggered a reaction in me:

Why do we need a less risky approach to entrepreneurship in software development? I believe that of all start-up opportunities, software development is already the least risky one. Why? Almost zero unvestment required. Absolutely flexible working ours. All value creation is through your mind work. No external milestones and so on and so on...

The fact that Software development has become synonymous with entrepreneurship is almost ridiculous. Just compare the risks you are taking with that of your mom-and-pop shop around the corner (or the one that was there 30 years ago)...

Re:A Less Risky Path to Entrepreneurship in Software Develop... by GrinningFool on Sunday October 06, 2013 @11:07PM (#6506353)
" Why? Almost zero unvestment required. Absolutely flexible working ours. All value creation is through your mind work. No external milestones and so on and so on..."

Not all costs are monetary.

When you have a family to provide for and responsibilities beyond those to yourself, your threshold for acceptable risk drops much lower.

Re:A Less Risky Path to Entrepreneurship in Software Develop... by vinceguidry on Sunday October 06, 2013 @03:13PM (#6505072)
While there's practically zero capital risk, there is a lot of career risk involved if you fail. Many employers avoid failed entrepreneurs like the plague.
Re:A Less Risky Path to Entrepreneurship in Software Develop... by mikkelewis on Sunday October 06, 2013 @03:51PM (#6505201)
I disagree. When reviewing resumes, I'm always impressed when I see candidates starting their own company. It shows ambition, and the will to wear multiple hats... something that startups are always looking for.
Re:A Less Risky Path to Entrepreneurship in Software Develop... by ericingram on Sunday October 06, 2013 @03:46PM (#6505185)
Quite the opposite, in my experience.
Re:A Less Risky Path to Entrepreneurship in Software Develop... by yesimahuman on Sunday October 06, 2013 @08:48PM (#6506052)
Any examples? In my experience it's been the complete opposite.
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Re:A Less Risky Path to Entrepreneurship in Software Develop... by hansgru on Sunday October 06, 2013 @03:35PM (#6505154)
> That is entirely false.

In mainland Europe this is entirely true.

Even more, this has implications not only when searching for jobs or gigs, but also on the social/personal level: the stigmata and marginalization that comes with it it's incredible here.

I now lie about my previous failed startups.

Re:A Less Risky Path to Entrepreneurship in Software Develop... by sokoloff on Sunday October 06, 2013 @06:23PM (#6505692)
US employer here (who all hires for some EU-based roles): I view failed entrepreneurs very positively, assuming the candidate can reflect reasonably on what went well and what went poorly.

PS: you probably mean stigma, not stigmata: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stigmata

Re:A Less Risky Path to Entrepreneurship in Software Develop... by billmalarky on Sunday October 06, 2013 @05:43PM (#6505569)
Note to self: Never live in mainland Europe.

Maybe I'm viewing the world through rose tinted glasses, but it seems entrepreneurs are very respected in the US.

Re:A Less Risky Path to Entrepreneurship in Software Develop... by bjelkeman-again on Sunday October 06, 2013 @06:57PM (#6505778)
I think it varies quite a lot across countries. I don't think it would be a problem being a failed entrepreneur in the Netherlands.

I had two belly flops, two marginal and one boring startup under my belt before I took on the latest one. I have never met any stigma in the Netherlands, UK or Sweden. The last two are of course not mainland Europe, but anyway.

Re:A Less Risky Path to Entrepreneurship in Software Develop... by michaelochurch on Sunday October 06, 2013 @04:06PM (#6505232)
I would like to see a more wholesome path to financing, especially for the mid-risk businesses that VCs decry as "lifestyle" businesses.

Software is inherently mid- to high-risk. "Low-risk" just doesn't exist in a world where half of all projects fail, and some fail for reasons not due to a lack of merit (but because they were built to a specialized purpose for which there was demand, but the situation changed). So bank loans, which require personal liability are completely out. On the other hand, VCs want to play in the high-risk space where the mean (expected) return is high but the median is failure. That appeals to some people, but it shouldn't be the only game in town.

Right now, there isn't a mainstream funding outlet for the mid-risk businesses oriented toward 10-40% per year growth, even though that's a great space for software engineers, since it approximately matches the acceleration curve of our capability, with hard work.

Re:A Less Risky Path to Entrepreneurship in Software Develop... by BWStearns on Sunday October 06, 2013 @10:03PM (#6506223)
>> Software is inherently mid- to high-risk. "Low-risk" just doesn't exist in a world where half of all projects fail

Risk is a function of both the likelihood and consequences of failure. If you can try and fail a hundred times without quitting your job and only take that plunge when it is derisked (by increased information derived from operation) then it is inherently low risk. Sure throwing 100% into a startup from the beginning makes that individual effort more likely to succeed while being much more risky, but nights/weekend projects can evolve to sustainable businesses without increasing your risk profile. This is because the consequences of failure are near zero, and even a failed effort may be "profitable" in the net sense of connections and marketable skills gained.

Re:A Less Risky Path to Entrepreneurship in Software Develop... by kamaal on Monday October 07, 2013 @01:09AM (#6506595)
>>Risk is a function of both the likelihood and consequences of failure.

Only in a mathematical argument. Failures are difficult to deal with personally, especially if you have to deal with them repeatedly without any sign of success around. The typical result is frustration gradually turning into a form of burnout and depression.

Re:A Less Risky Path to Entrepreneurship in Software Develop... by icoder on Monday October 07, 2013 @02:55AM (#6506823)
You describe just another consequence of failure and your example therefore still fit the original statement about risk and consequence of failure.

While the consequences you describe can be seen as quite severe, the risk of them is, in my opinion and experience, a lot lower than the risk of failure alone. The chance of failing AND consequently falling into burnout or, less likely, depression, seems rather small to me.