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Re:Did Shutting Down Silk Road Make the World a More Dangero... by jellicle on Friday October 04, 2013 @01:11PM (#6496580)
> History is very clear on this: the biggest enemies of justice have been governments and state sponsored entities, every single time.

If that were true, which it isn't, why did humanity create governments?

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Re:Did Shutting Down Silk Road Make the World a More Dangero... by smokeyj on Friday October 04, 2013 @01:18PM (#6496628)
> why did humanity create governments?

The same reason "humanity" created mafias and gangs -- which is to use violence as a means of economic control.

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Re:Did Shutting Down Silk Road Make the World a More Dangero... by quadrangle on Friday October 04, 2013 @01:56PM (#6496858)
It's as or more reasonable to say that governments evolved out of the need to mediate conflicts between people living in groups.
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Re:Did Shutting Down Silk Road Make the World a More Dangero... by manicbovine on Friday October 04, 2013 @03:07PM (#6497292)
This is also a more reasonable explanation for organized crime, seeing as how criminals cannot rely on the government to mediate criminal disputes.
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Re:Did Shutting Down Silk Road Make the World a More Dangero... by quadrangle on Monday October 07, 2013 @01:15PM (#6509672)
Organized crime has its own internal governance, hence "organized". So that's no different.
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Re:Did Shutting Down Silk Road Make the World a More Dangero... by ardeay on Friday October 04, 2013 @01:29PM (#6496694)
We have a HIVE mentality, as much as we try to hide it with personalization. It is the truth. We work together. WE WORK TOGETHER.
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Re:Did Shutting Down Silk Road Make the World a More Dangero... by gboudrias on Friday October 04, 2013 @01:33PM (#6496721)
Is that a quote or are you yelling at your monitor?
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Re:Did Shutting Down Silk Road Make the World a More Dangero... by clarkmoody on Friday October 04, 2013 @01:17PM (#6496619) 

  That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted
  among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent 
  of the governed,
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Re:Did Shutting Down Silk Road Make the World a More Dangero... by jessaustin on Friday October 04, 2013 @01:41PM (#6496777)
"Humanity" doesn't do anything. Humans do all sorts of things. Why do wolves form packs?
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Re:Did Shutting Down Silk Road Make the World a More Dangero... by mahyarm on Friday October 04, 2013 @01:36PM (#6496736)
Because violence exists.
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