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Re:At Last, Facing Down Bullies (and Their Enablers) by tptacek on Tuesday June 09, 2009 @02:39PM (#649610)
Due respect, but in real life you're a moron if you have the option of escaping a fight with drunken assholes on the street, and you choose to engage them directly on their terms.

The rest of your argument is a straw man. Did I make a gun control argument? Did I say you should be incapable of self defense? I did not. Anticipating this exact stupid argument, I made it clear that I (a) appreciated self defense training and (b) have my kids involved in it.

Re:At Last, Facing Down Bullies (and Their Enablers) by philwelch on Tuesday June 09, 2009 @02:48PM (#649635)
You just don't want them to actually defend themselves, ever.

Responding to a schoolyard bully with a punch to the gut is one and the same as responding to a B&E with a shotgun. If you want your kids to do one but not the other, you're sending mixed messages. You don't respond to barroom bullies with a punch to the gut--you get the bouncer's attention. But that's tactical judgment. If you're in the schoolyard, getting a teacher's attention will just as often do nothing, and if it accomplishes anything it only makes the problem worse. It's more like a prison, where the wardens will allow all kinds of abuses happen without interfering.

"Don't throw a punch, ever" is pacifist crap, not tactical judgment.