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Re:At Last, Facing Down Bullies (and Their Enablers) by JabavuAdams on Tuesday June 09, 2009 @01:40PM (#649466)
> What's the value in teaching children how to respond physically to low-grade physical violence? It's not valuable in adult life. Corner a coworker at your office, shove them, stick a finger too close to their face while raising your voice: you're fired. Is your boss dumb enough to let it go, or worse, participate? Guess what: when employees sue, you lose, no matter what.

Remember, we're talking about a response to aggression. In an office, no one is likely to be shoving you in the first place. If someone is, then you are certainly justified in responding physically if you cannot remove yourself from the situation.

You've seen the internet video where an office-worker rages out, hurting others, and everyone just stands around because they've been conditioned to never use violence? They finally react far too late.

Re:At Last, Facing Down Bullies (and Their Enablers) by tptacek on Tuesday June 09, 2009 @01:49PM (#649488)
In the altogether likely event that the circumstances that started an office fight are ambiguous, if you respond physically to a low-grade physical assault, you are very possibly going to get fired yourself.
Re:At Last, Facing Down Bullies (and Their Enablers) by JabavuAdams on Tuesday June 09, 2009 @02:02PM (#649517)
It's possible, I suppose, but I have a hard time imagining such a situation. What do you mean by low-grade physical assault? I'm not talking about an accidental touch or bumping.

IMHO, there is no "low-grade physical" assault in an office environment, because physical interaction of any kind is so frowned upon. What would be low-grade in the playground becomes "are you insane?" in an adult office setting.

Re:At Last, Facing Down Bullies (and Their Enablers) by tptacek on Tuesday June 09, 2009 @02:22PM (#649559)
Maybe a part of the reason it's not "are you insane?" on the playground is because that's how we've (incorrectly) chosen to handle playgrounds.
Re:At Last, Facing Down Bullies (and Their Enablers) by run4yourlives on Tuesday June 09, 2009 @03:21PM (#649736)
I see a lot more problems in offices than I do in playgrounds.

Just saying.