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Re:Mozilla bug 923590: Pledge never to implement HTML5 DRM by lucid00 on Friday October 04, 2013 @03:00AM (#6494093)
But if content providers refuse to not use DRM anyways, won't Haiku users still lose out regardless?

If you can't use HTML5 DRM with Netflix your other options are either Silver light or a native app and Haiku has neither.

I'd say HTML5 DRM is the far lesser evil in this case.

Re:Mozilla bug 923590: Pledge never to implement HTML5 DRM by pgeorgi on Friday October 04, 2013 @03:17AM (#6494141)
They're all equally evil, since they're all equally useless on non-Win/OSX platforms (which are the only ones providing a reliable protected AV path), and since they're all very similar in that they need a plugin.

IMHO If anything EME is more evil than the other options in that it standardizes (and this way implicitely mandates) a special plugin interface for DRM purposes only.

Users still have to install plugins, and now browser vendors get the blame if things fail (since the user will be hard pressed to identify plugin issues in "that website doesn't work").

I fail to see where it's the W3C's, browser vendors' or web users' responsibility to make the DRM vendors' lifes easier. And that's all EME does.

Re:Mozilla bug 923590: Pledge never to implement HTML5 DRM by ProNoob13 on Friday October 04, 2013 @04:47AM (#6494383)
Good point. On the other hand, DRM will come to HTML5 anyway, whatever we try. So, I think it's better to give it a spec, and have one, unified and well-known way for the DRM to operate, instead of 20 different implementations.
Re:Mozilla bug 923590: Pledge never to implement HTML5 DRM by pgeorgi on Friday October 04, 2013 @05:03AM (#6494413)
Specs are supposed to make things simple. I'd rather have DRM vendors struggle with the problem individually at every step (and that includes browser integration)

For one, because they'll fail in the most hilarious ways (and each one separately), so there will be backdoors, or at least a good laugh or two. But also because it drives up the cost of DRM, hopefully making it less attractive.

Should DRM manage to get hold even despite such problems and Amazon notices that they can reduce the price of their media package by 1$/month if they drop the DRM, the resulting massacre will be great to watch.

Re:Mozilla bug 923590: Pledge never to implement HTML5 DRM by josteink on Friday October 04, 2013 @09:23AM (#6495164)
I'd say HTML5 DRM is the far lesser evil in this case.

Completely disagree. HTML5 DRM is non-interoptable but disguised as interoptable through its HTML form. That makes it much, much worse.

Re:Mozilla bug 923590: Pledge never to implement HTML5 DRM by acdha on Sunday October 06, 2013 @01:37PM (#6504719)
You have fundamentally misunderstood the proposal: it standardizes only the interface. It promises nothing about forcing interoperability — only a focused, more secure replacement for NPAPI.