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Re:Complete List of Mac OS X Snow Leopard Enhancements by zach on Tuesday June 09, 2009 @11:14AM (#649210)
Are the first two items things you miss from Windows? They were for me, but I wouldn't want them added to 10.6...
Re:Complete List of Mac OS X Snow Leopard Enhancements by cake on Tuesday June 09, 2009 @11:41AM (#649256)
The cut-and-paste thing is really a basic feature for me and I think it was working in Mac Os 8+, we already have a copy-and-paste. I can't understand why they couldn't implement the cut-and-paste.

I don't understand how you can't miss it, unless you "mv" everything.

The maximize thing is not entirely Windows, I remember seeing it on some Linux distros. I hate to see the clutter behind my windows, especially if I have a browser open on some webpage with a blinking ad.

I find it much harder to focus on the app on which I'm supposed to work if I have other stuff behind.

Re:Complete List of Mac OS X Snow Leopard Enhancements by DLWormwood on Tuesday June 09, 2009 @12:57PM (#649392)
This is partly historical. When MultiFinder was introduced to System 6, the Mac's primary difference from the PCs of the era was an emphasis on mouse manipulation, instead of keyboard manipuation (via DOS's command line, mostly). It was expected for end users to use drag-and-drop to move information between applications, instead of using the clipboard. (Something that Apple themselves didn't fully come through with regarding APIs until System 7.)

Since drag-and-drop requires visible targets to work, and users were expected to have to see data from two or more apps at the same time, it was considered "rude" to take up the entire screen. (Even apps that tried to do so were constrained by the OS to provide a 4-pixel gutter around the edges of the screen so the user could always option-click the Finder to the foreground.)

The notion that you only do work in just one app was considered "missing the point" for multitasking, which is part of the reason the original "Switcher" metaphor for multitasking in the classic Mac OS was abandoned.

http://folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=Switcher.txt

Upshot: Apple's UI designers seem to regret adapting the newspaper publisher's concept of the clipboard, and have been trying to invent workarounds ever since, probably because it's a form of "hidden state." (See iPhone 1.x and 2.x for a more recent example.) The only time in recent memory Apple acknowledged the validity of a clipboard model was when they tried to adapt it to a "publish and subscribe" dynamic system in System 7, only to give up when implementation and UI complexities with the concept rendered that unpopular.

Re:Complete List of Mac OS X Snow Leopard Enhancements by larrykubin on Tuesday June 09, 2009 @11:56AM (#649280)
I feel the same way about maximize. If you complain about it, someone who defends every Apple decision will say "why would you want to do that? It doesn't make sense."

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=600389

Anyway, I downloaded something called Right Zoom that changes the behavior of the zoom button (which I find practically useless).

http://www.blazingtools.com/downloads.html

Re:Complete List of Mac OS X Snow Leopard Enhancements by nixme on Tuesday June 09, 2009 @12:48PM (#649370)
If you'd rather not use a proprietary program from a company that makes keyloggers, check out WrongZoom (downloadable link in the readme): http://github.com/spicyj/wrongzoom/tree/master
Re:Complete List of Mac OS X Snow Leopard Enhancements by DLWormwood on Tuesday June 09, 2009 @12:49PM (#649373)
I don't defend every Apple decision... but this is more a case of history with Apple creating a windowing paradigm before Microsoft did...

http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/8pejm/i_love_my_mac_a...

Re:Complete List of Mac OS X Snow Leopard Enhancements by ZeroGravitas on Tuesday June 09, 2009 @12:07PM (#649299)
You can drag'n'drop the file too.

And for blinking ads in the background try either Option-Command-H (Hide everything else) or Spaces.

Yes I know that's not the answer you want, but just in case it helps you or anyone else.

Re:Complete List of Mac OS X Snow Leopard Enhancements by mcella on Tuesday June 09, 2009 @12:44PM (#649354)
For some apps (ff for instance) holding cmd while clicking (+) maximizes like in windows.
Re:Complete List of Mac OS X Snow Leopard Enhancements by ComputerGuru on Tuesday June 09, 2009 @04:07PM (#649859)
There were the first 2 things for me as well. While it's true that no maximized windows is just a design paradigm to improve multi-tasking, it's inconsistent (Mail maximizes all the way. So does iPhoto).

As for cut and paste... that's essential.

But the VERY worst thing is the lack of folder merging. Copy and paste a folder to a directory with a folder of the same name, and the contents of the destination will be REPLACED not merged with the source.

Re:Complete List of Mac OS X Snow Leopard Enhancements by dchest on Tuesday June 09, 2009 @05:48PM (#650061)
How would you implement merging? (I'm not trolling, I'm asking for a solution).
Re:Complete List of Mac OS X Snow Leopard Enhancements by ComputerGuru on Tuesday June 09, 2009 @06:26PM (#650124)
The same way Windows does.

/folder1/file1.jpg

/me/folder1/file2.jpg

moving me/folder1 to /folder1 should result in

/folder1/file1.jpg

/folder1/file2.jpg

But on OS X, it only results in

/folder1/file2.jpg

Replace conflicting files, but not the folders themselves.

Re:Complete List of Mac OS X Snow Leopard Enhancements by dchest on Tuesday June 09, 2009 @06:37PM (#650138)
Now, you have version 1.0 of Cool.app, and version 2.0 Cool.app. 2.0 removes some files from the distribution, and adds some new. Cool.app is a bundle, i.e. folder that looks like file in Finder. Obviously, you want to replace the application completely instead of merging.

What would you do?

Re:Complete List of Mac OS X Snow Leopard Enhancements by ComputerGuru on Tuesday June 09, 2009 @06:43PM (#650147)
Packages are treated as individual files everywhere in the Finder UI, this wouldn't be an exception.
Re:Complete List of Mac OS X Snow Leopard Enhancements by dchest on Wednesday June 10, 2009 @04:24AM (#650731)
Right. But now we have another problem. Our Cool.app stores user documents in packages. We have "Work.cool", which is treated like a package in Finder. Now we send this document to a person who doesn't have Cool.app installed. Then we send him another version of this document. How would merge/replace work for him? Since he doesn't have Cool.app, ".cool" folders are not registered as packages, they look like folders to him.

I see one solution to this problem: let user decide what to do. Apple could add "Merge" button (or maybe a better title meaning "Replace files inside the destination folder with files in source folder") in addition to "Replace" in "what do you want to do" dialog. (Note that you can't simply name this thing replacing as in Windows, because it's really merging). This would also require some kind of comparison dialog to ask users what files to overwrite.

I think Apple just went with a simplest solution here instead of introducing the whole new concept of merging and new UI to users to potentially create a confusion ("hm... what should I do - what's Merge and what's Replace?"). I'm not sure if it's good or bad, but I personally never miss Windows-like merging mistakenly called replace.

The better thing to fix (unrelated to merging), I think is to put the replaced folder to trash instead of overwriting it, to allow users to undo their action (see http://daringfireball.net/2003/03/i_love_it_because_its_tras...). However, this creates a confusion again ("what's this thing doing in my trash, I didn't delete it")... UI is hard.

Re:Complete List of Mac OS X Snow Leopard Enhancements by ComputerGuru on Wednesday June 10, 2009 @04:36AM (#650739)
@dchest:

Technically, these files belong in the user-specific ~/ directory and not the package itself, according to the ADC specifications, if I'm not mistaken.

Re:Complete List of Mac OS X Snow Leopard Enhancements by dchest on Wednesday June 10, 2009 @06:23AM (#650785)
By removing some files from distribution I mean, for example, getting rid of some resources, like nibs or images, etc.
Re:Complete List of Mac OS X Snow Leopard Enhancements by ComputerGuru on Wednesday June 10, 2009 @12:42PM (#651292)
I guess the simplest solution would be to use metadata to identify a package as being a package and not a folder? That way it wouldn't matter what software was installed, etc?