Rap Stats: Breaking Down The Words in Rap Lyrics Over Time

Re:Rap Stats: Breaking Down The Words in Rap Lyrics Over Time by dmix on Thursday October 03, 2013 @02:10PM (#6490785)

Regarding the NBA chart: "Jordan, Kobe and Lebron":

> Rap and professional sports have always gone hand in hand, and we can see the evolution of rappers’ favorite basketball players:

"Jordan" keyword for example would more often be used in reference for Nike shoes, so not a direct representation of the sports players popularity.

/pedantic rant

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Rap Stats: Breaking Down The Words in Rap Lyrics Over Time by mbrameld on Thursday October 03, 2013 @03:34PM (#6491370)

Usually the shoes are referenced with the plural "Jordans", whereas the player is referenced with the singular "Jordan".

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Rap Stats: Breaking Down The Words in Rap Lyrics Over Time by golergka on Thursday October 03, 2013 @02:18PM (#6490840)

> not a direct representation of the sports players popularity

And how exactly did these shoes got their name?

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Rap Stats: Breaking Down The Words in Rap Lyrics Over Time by joenathan on Thursday October 03, 2013 @02:28PM (#6490907)

How did the Teddy bear get its name? The popularity of plush bears doesn't much reflect the popularity of Theodore Roosevelt.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Rap Stats: Breaking Down The Words in Rap Lyrics Over Time by dkl on Thursday October 03, 2013 @02:49PM (#6491060)

There is a much higher connection between the shoes and player for "jordan", though. Especially a link in time.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Rap Stats: Breaking Down The Words in Rap Lyrics Over Time by joenathan on Thursday October 03, 2013 @06:14PM (#6492505)

Michael Jordan doesn't much factor in, that is why no rappers are wearing his jersey or his number(23). Jordans, the shoes, are mentioned in rap songs because of the status(very expensive and hard to come by) and fashion of the brand, like other brands mentioned in rap, Gucci, Prada, Fendi, etc.. Rappers don't know and don't care about the people who started or who are behind those brands, they are only mentioned for the high status and fashion associated with those brands.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Rap Stats: Breaking Down The Words in Rap Lyrics Over Time by eropple on Thursday October 03, 2013 @09:18PM (#6493197)

> Rappers don't know and don't care about the people who started or who are behind those brands

This is...incredibly not true. The crossover between basketball and rap and hip-hop is significant and the cultural awareness of, uh, Michael Jordan is certainly there. Kendrick Lamar, Kurtis Blow, Kanye West, Jay-Z, Drake--the group of major rappers who've written songs about Jordan (Lamar) or have written songs that draw heavily from basketball and its history (the rest of that list) is huge.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Rap Stats: Breaking Down The Words in Rap Lyrics Over Time by joenathan on Friday October 04, 2013 @03:35AM (#6494192)

I see what you are saying, he is acknowledged and recognized as one of the greats, but most probably never even think of him when talking about the shoes. Michael Jordan doesn't much factor in when rappers are talking about Jordans, his person is very separate from the fashion and status the shoes have come to represent.

Hell I spent $200-$300 4-5 years ago and bought a pair of the Spike Lee Jordans http://images.freshnessmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/ai... - I bought them purely for the fashion.

-I never like replying on a subject too much like this; this topic isn't that important, guess I must be bored :-/

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Rap Stats: Breaking Down The Words in Rap Lyrics Over Time by golergka on Friday October 04, 2013 @09:58AM (#6495364)

I'll just leave this here.

http://rapgenius.com/Macklemore-and-ryan-lewis-wing-lyrics

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Rap Stats: Breaking Down The Words in Rap Lyrics Over Time by CoachRufus87 on Thursday October 03, 2013 @10:48PM (#6493448)

For one, nobody wears jerseys anymore.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Rap Stats: Breaking Down The Words in Rap Lyrics Over Time by rhlahuja on Thursday October 03, 2013 @02:47PM (#6491038)

Not really the same thing. Those bears weren't named after Roosevelt and thus don't reflect his popularity whereas Jordans were clearly named after MJ himself.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Rap Stats: Breaking Down The Words in Rap Lyrics Over Time by bostonpete on Thursday October 03, 2013 @02:58PM (#6491126)

> Those bears weren't named after Roosevelt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teddy_bear#History

[ Parent | on HN ]