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Re:HTML5 Flash Player (Shumway) lands in Mozilla by robmcm on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @10:33AM (#6482602)
I think this is aimed at legacy support, I don't think anyone would target this as a supported runtime.

Ironically most of the useful flash applications/games etc wouldn't run on these runtimes as they are using features not supported in HTML5. This sort of thing works best for crappy adverts and banners, which no one really wants anyway. This is highlighted by the fact the big competitor (Gordon?) is developed by the Google ad sense team ;)

Re:HTML5 Flash Player (Shumway) lands in Mozilla by nthitz on Thursday October 03, 2013 @01:02AM (#6487280)
According to this Shumway was based on Gordon. http://www.geek.com/news/mozillas-shumway-project-replaces-f...

And you remember who Gordon Shumway is right? ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALF_(TV_series) )

Re:HTML5 Flash Player (Shumway) lands in Mozilla by willvarfar on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @11:08AM (#6482834)
What features are they using that html5 doesn't cover?

I'm genuinely curious, as I do a bit of html5/webgl and formerly did a lot of flash/haxe, so I'm wondering what I missed...

Re:HTML5 Flash Player (Shumway) lands in Mozilla by robmcm on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @12:52PM (#6483641)
Lets say DRM video for arguments sake.

However there are other things, like webcam/device support, some audio stuff, filters that may be very slow on a canvas and hard to run in WebGL inside other panes (overlays etc).

Re:HTML5 Flash Player (Shumway) lands in Mozilla by X4 on Thursday October 03, 2013 @12:13AM (#6487126)
I'm glad DRM isn't globally accepted by the W3C Consortium, but I'm sure beneficiaries like Google, Adobe and Microsoft heavily try to subvert that state.
Re:HTML5 Flash Player (Shumway) lands in Mozilla by willvarfar on Thursday October 03, 2013 @01:07AM (#6487289)
But Flash DRM is, like all DRM in the face of a hostile end-user, ineffective. Nobody has any problems using the plethora of tools that strip DRM from Flash video, right?
Re:HTML5 Flash Player (Shumway) lands in Mozilla by robmcm on Thursday October 03, 2013 @04:01AM (#6487695)
If it appeases the rights holders into allowing their video on the web I'm happy.

Users want to watch videos, they don't care about the technology under the hood.

Do you ever try and watch youtube videos that say, "this video isn't available on your device"...

Re:HTML5 Flash Player (Shumway) lands in Mozilla by robmcm on Wednesday October 16, 2013 @10:27AM (#6559809)
Just saw this answer to another question about the technology:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6558539

I guess you could ask him for more details.

Re:HTML5 Flash Player (Shumway) lands in Mozilla by Tloewald on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @10:52AM (#6482726)
If it were widely adopted, people would target it. If it's not widely adopted, who cares?
Re:HTML5 Flash Player (Shumway) lands in Mozilla by robmcm on Wednesday October 02, 2013 @01:04PM (#6483711)
It's adopted by having a HTML 5 compliant browser, at which point you would just use HTML 5 tools.

Unless you really loved the flash IDE which I guess some people do...

Re:HTML5 Flash Player (Shumway) lands in Mozilla by Sanddancer on Thursday October 03, 2013 @02:13AM (#6487463)
There's also a lot of flash out there generated through things like libming that people either can't or won't rewrite to use html5.
Re:HTML5 Flash Player (Shumway) lands in Mozilla by robmcm on Thursday October 03, 2013 @04:12AM (#6487718)
I expect there will be a new lib to replace that, I guess this would bridge the gap for those who don't update. I doubt ming would target this runtime though, would be very inefficient.